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Discovery Land Establishes Presence On East Quogue's Main Street

155,000 square foot commercial building - called a

CLUBHOUSE & CATERING HALL is also in this request for a zoning change.

Ms. Amanda Bernocco omitted this "small" detail.

Is this larger than the COSTCO in Riverhead?" Dec 22, 16 8:27 AM

Dr. Gobler Says Luxury Golf Course Resort Would Leave Larger Nitrogen Footprint Than Subdivision

The Southampton Town web site shows that
Shinnecock Hills golf course takes up about 229 acres
Atlantic Golf Club course covers about 177 acres
Golf At The Bridge golf course uses about 230 acres
But, Sebonack's pays taxes on 238 acres and Mr. Hissey insists that the course only covers abt. 90 acres - same as Mr. Hissey claims "The Hills" is utilizing.
Amazing, yes?

The last time I played golf on a 87 acre golf course - it was 9 HOLES...!

Amazing..." Jan 11, 17 9:40 PM

Cuomo, Thiele Propose Billions In Water Quality Improvement Funding

"What we have here is a failure to communicate".

We need to build more golf courses over our water supply. Golf courses, we've recently been advised by a developer, will remove cancer causing and shell fish killing chemicals from ground water supplies...

Wow! Now we know the answer." Jan 12, 17 3:44 PM

Dr. Gobler Says Luxury Golf Course Resort Would Leave Larger Nitrogen Footprint Than Subdivision

This issue is a BIG DEAL for this developer. If his acreage is "off" the project as proposed does not pass the minimal requirement of 65% open space - the LEGALLY OBLIGATED MINIMUM.

His lawyer, Wayne Bruyn, does not agree with him - and said a few years ago "golf courses require 175 to 200 acres".

Dr. Michael Hurdzan, esteemed member of the American Society of Golf Course Architects, says “a full size par 72 course would need 120-200 acres. This assumes, of course, only usable land which does not allow for wetlands, restricted areas, or land NOT easily made part of the golf area.”

Why not call the cart paths "nature paths" and deduct that acreage also?" Jan 13, 17 10:56 AM

If you want to build a high-end house on 2 acres - you could buy about 30 lots in Southampton Pines (the development just East of The Hills in East Quogue).

That development was started around 1997 and it's still nowhere near built-out.

By the time those homes are built - the school might need more kids?" Jan 21, 17 9:35 AM

McAllister Offers Opinion On Hills Proposal, Says PDD Plan Would Have Less Impact On Environment

I just went to StopTheHills.com and watched the video of Gobler, Fred Theile,
Bridget Fleming and others - speaking about the re-zoning.

WOW!!!!!

They all make clear and informative statements about "The Hills"." Feb 19, 17 5:01 PM

And, boy, am I glad Bridget Fleming is on the side of our Environment." Feb 19, 17 5:03 PM

Southampton Town Supervisor Will Seek More Environmental Concessions For 'The Hills'

What did Jay say?" Mar 29, 17 12:07 PM

12 Environmental groups opposed to the HILLS = 12 Groups - All will vote for Jay forever when he spearheads this rejection of this ridiculous PDD.

Jay for Governor !!!

When Gov. Coumo runs for President - on clean water and the environment - Jay is a natural to fill that important office.

What is more important than protecting our children, grandchildren, etc... from the various diseases caused by these chemicals! " May 3, 17 6:51 PM

Dr. Chris Gobler Shares Opinion, Concerns Over 'The Hills' Proposal

Yesterday the NYS DEC closed all of Western Shinnecock Bay to shell fishing due to a toxin caused by nitrogen linked to paralytic shellfish poisoning!

Cutting down trees in the Pine Barrens - to plant 4,000,000 square feet of turf for a golf course - is not a good idea.

This is not a hysterical prediction - this is what happened yesterday.

" May 5, 17 1:24 PM

NEW ARTICLE IN TODAYS SH PRESS:

Biotoxin Prompts Shellfishing Ban In Western Shinnecock Bay
May 5, 2017 8:39 AM
By Greg Wehner

The State Department of Environmental Conservation temporarily closed approximately 1,400 acres in western Shinnecock Bay to shellfishing on Thursday, May 4, after a potentially dangerous marine biotoxin was found in mussels.

The DEC said the closure comes after mussels collected from biotoxin monitoring sites in the bay by both the state agency and Suffolk County Department of Health Services tested positive for saxitoxin, a neurotoxin that, if consumed by people, could lead to paralytic shellfish poisoning.

The ban specifically targets the harvesting of carnivorous gastropods, such as whelks, conchs and moon snails, as well filter-feeding shellfish, including clams, oysters, mussels and scallops. In a press release, the DEC said shellfish and carnivorous gastropods can accumulate the biotoxin and, when eaten, can cause humans to become sick.

The closure area includes the portion of Shinnecock Bay that lies west of Pine Neck Point in East Quogue and east of the Post Lane Bridge in Quogue.

The DEC also on Thursday banned the harvesting of carnivorous gastropods from Deep Hole Creek, Halls Creek and a section of Great Peconic Bay, all in Southold Town.

The DEC said it will continue to monitor the situation in Shinnecock Bay over the next few weeks before considering reopening the area to shellfishing.

Harvesters seeking the status of the closure can call (631) 444-0480." May 5, 17 4:08 PM

Biotoxin Prompts Shellfishing Ban In Western Shinnecock Bay

WAIT A Minute - -

Are you suggesting that 2 + 2 = 4 ?

That the dumping of chemicals & nitrogen - effects the waters
that it's dumped in ???

Wow. We've never heard of that before..." May 6, 17 8:22 AM

Southampton Supervisor Reverses Course, Seeks To Throw Out PDD Law Without Replacing It

I would wager that Jay will vote down the HILLS. He is very smart & he has been on the east end of Long Island for a very long time. He "gets it".

Why would any honest politician or knowledgable person allow more chemicals to be introduced when EVERYONE is talking about cleaning up our waters!

Steve Bellone, Bridget Fleming, Ed Romaine and many other east end public administrators know that if we don't have clean water - we will not have a healthy business environment and a safe place for our children to swim, play and grow up." May 12, 17 11:02 PM

In this newspaper - on April 27th, 2017 - an article quoted
Dr. Christopher Gobler.

"A newly submitted report, researched by one of the East End’s most well-respected water quality experts, challenges the science used and conclusions reached in the draft environmental impact statement filed by the Arizona developer pushing for a zoning change that would permit the construction of a luxury golf resort in East Quogue.
In his highly anticipated report filed last month with Southampton Town, Dr. Chris Gobler, a marine science professor at Stony Brook Southampton, also states that the proposed 118-home, 18-hole private golf course being pursued by Discovery Land Company—dubbed “The Hills at Southampton”—would add more nitrogen to the environment than if the firm was allowed to develop the nearly 600 acres according to its current zoning. The land owned by Discovery Land currently carries 5-acre residential zoning, the most restrictive in the municipality".

The best part of this is that Dr. Gobler is not on anyones payroll - as opposed to most of the other commentators on this subject.

Why would the town allow a developer to add 4,000,000 sq. ft. of turf in the most protected zoning part of the town. I believe that most of the board members will not allow this.

Remember - this project was allowed to move ahead by Anna Throne-Holst and Brad Bender - in cahoots with the Republicans on the Town Board.

Where are they today? Anna is in Europe and Bender is in the slammer. Where will Mr. Glinka be next year? In the back of a Bridgehampton National Bank branch.
" May 12, 17 11:19 PM

Dr. Chris Gobler Shares Opinion, Concerns Over 'The Hills' Proposal

Credentials & qualifications of Dr. Gobler:

SHPress - Jan. 9, 2017 & updated Jan. 12, 2017 article by Amanda Bernocco

"Dr. Chris Gobler, a marine science professor at Stony Brook-Southampton and arguably one of the region’s most respected water quality experts, shared for the first time this week that he thinks that a luxury golf course resort community proposed in East Quogue would add more nitrogen to the environment than if the developer was required to adhere to the site’s current zoning.
Dr. Gobler did not say that he opposes the project being pitched by the Discovery Land Company of Arizona, an 118-residential unit complex that would also feature an 18-hole golf course that would require Southampton Town Board approval of special zoning called a planned development district, or PDD. But he made it clear that, as currently pitched, the development would contribute more nitrogen to already compromised groundwater in the hamlet"." May 13, 17 5:01 PM

Credentials & qualifications of Dr. Gobler:

SHPress - Jan. 9, 2017 & updated Jan. 12, 2017 article by Amanda Bernocco

"Dr. Chris Gobler, a marine science professor at Stony Brook-Southampton and arguably one of the region’s most respected water quality experts, shared for the first time this week that he thinks that a luxury golf course resort community proposed in East Quogue would add more nitrogen to the environment than if the developer was required to adhere to the site’s current zoning.
Dr. Gobler did not say that he opposes the project being pitched by the Discovery Land Company of Arizona, an 118-residential unit complex that would also feature an 18-hole golf course that would require Southampton Town Board approval of special zoning called a planned development district, or PDD. But he made it clear that, as currently pitched, the development would contribute more nitrogen to already compromised groundwater in the hamlet"." May 13, 17 5:27 PM

Southampton Supervisor Reverses Course, Seeks To Throw Out PDD Law Without Replacing It

From SHPress on Jan. 9th, 2017

An impartial professor, Dr. Christopher Gobler - whose advice was sought by Jay Schneiderman and before that, Anna Throne-Holst - was quoted by Amanda Bernocco for the Press:

Dr. Chris Gobler, a marine science professor at Stony Brook-Southampton and arguably one of the region’s most respected water quality experts, shared for the first time this week that he thinks that a luxury golf course resort community proposed in East Quogue would add more nitrogen to the environment than if the developer was required to adhere to the site’s current zoning.
Dr. Gobler did not say that he opposes the project being pitched by the Discovery Land Company of Arizona, an 118-residential unit complex that would also feature an 18-hole golf course that would require Southampton Town Board approval of special zoning called a planned development district, or PDD. But he made it clear that, as currently pitched, the development would contribute more nitrogen to already compromised groundwater in the hamlet." May 13, 17 5:38 PM

Discovery Land Hopes To File Final Environmental Impact Statement By Memorial Day

This was in the Southampton Press 3 YEARS AGO. It could have been written today.

Date: Jul 3, 2014; Section: Letters to the Editor; Page: A12
VIEWPOINT

A Threat To Prior Environmental Victories
BY CAROLYN ZENK
The Hills at Southampton’s proposed change of zone, from 5-acre residential to a Mixed-Use Planned Development District (MUPDD), in East Quogue, on the largest remaining Pine Barrens tract—436 acres—should be vigorously opposed by the Southampton Town Board and the public. Write your Town Board. Tell them to vote “No.” See www. stopthehills.com.
This radical downzoning would destroy decades of environmental victories, culminating in critical Southampton environmental laws, including the 5-acre residential zone, open space law and the Aquifer Protection Overlay District. Environmentalists worked long and hard to pass these highly protective laws, which could be gutted. Under existing zoning, The Hills would receive 82 residential units. The town can use the open space law to cluster homes together and save more than 65 percent of the parcel as natural open space, and use its Aquifer Protection Overlay District to restrict fertilized turf to a half acre on the entire site, which would reduce nitrogen and pesticide pollution. Instead, the Town Board is poised to approve between 82 and 118 units, plus an 85-acre private golf course, restaurant, clubhouse, pool house and sprawling parking lots.
The Hills is on the groundwater divide—the “headwaters” of the aquifer system. Clean, fresh water must flow “off the hill” if public and private wells and the bays “downstream” are to be healthy and clean. We have already exceeded the capacity of our bay ecosystem, as evidenced by recurring brown tides.
For those who claim the MUPDD zone better protects the environment—“The Emperor has no clothes!” The Hills is a fraud foisted on an unsuspecting public.
Representatives of The Hills claim that the MUPDD would protect the public drinking water supply more than the existing zone. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: A toxic golf course is proposed on top of two Suffolk County public drinking water wells, which supply at least 179.3 million gallons of water a year to residents.
Fact 2: Well fields in the Hampton Bays Water District likely will be poisoned by the toxic plume of pollution generated by the golf course. The U.S. Geological Survey reports that groundwater flow is west from the site, east toward the wells.
Fact 3: Existing zoning limits polluting turf to a half acre for the entire tract. The golf course proposes 164 times more.
Fact 4: The golf course will generate two to three times the polluting nitrates than the existing zoning. The Cornell study concludes that golf courses generate 7.5 milligrams of nitrogen per liter, versus 2 to 3 mg/liter from 5-acre residential development.
Representatives of The Hills claim that poisons from the golf course will not get into groundwater or poison the public. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: The New York attorney general commissioned a study, titled “Toxic Fairways: Risking Groundwater Contamination from Pesticides on Long Island Golf Courses.” It concluded that Long Island golf courses used 192 pesticides with 50 active ingredients, including carcinogens. Health impacts included cancer, impaired nervous systems, optic nerve degeneration, decreased red blood cell counts and hemoglobin concentrations, low birth weights, toxicity to fetuses, toxicity to livers and decreases in sperm.
Fact 2: According to the American Cancer Society, one in two American men, and one in three American women, will get cancer.

Representatives of The Hills claim that the MUPDD will give the town more control over environmental impacts. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: The town will have no control over pesticides if it allows a golf course because of the doctrine of preemption, which holds that where state or federal governments have a pervasive set of laws on a subject, like pesticide use, they preempt local control.
Fact 2: The town has the power to limit fertilized/poisoned turf under its Aquifer Protection Overlay District. The preemption doctrine would not apply to turf controls. The town can further limit turf and, thus, reduce pollution by local law by amending the Aquifer Protection Overlay District or imposing covenants under the state Environmental Quality Review Act.
Representatives of The Hills claim that there would be no air pollution from pesticides. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: The attorney general concludes that pesticides drift far from their application.
Fact 2: The East Quogue Elementary School, East Quogue Main Street, the East Quogue Village Green, the East Quogue marine park and the Weesuck bird sanctuary are several blocks from The Hills. They will experience toxic aerial pesticide drift. The public will breathe poison.
Representatives of The Hills claim that the golf course will pollute our bays less than the existing zoning. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: The Cornell study concludes that golf courses pollute two to three times more nitrogen than a housing development in the 5-acre zone.
Fact 2: The Aquifer Protection Overly District limits turf to a half acre on the entire site.
Representatives of The Hills claim that the golf course development will generate $4.5 million in taxes to the town, and $3.5 million to the East Quogue School District per year or $10,000/acre. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: Golf courses generate half the taxes of residential developments. Tax records reveal that Sebonac Neck Property LLC generated $241,975 a year. The Atlantic Golf Club Inc. generated $52,246. National Golf Links of America generated $185,988.78. Shinnecock Hills Golf Club Inc. generated $180,257.32 a year. (Average: $785/acre.)
Fact 2: Taxes for golf course developments are so low that Tuckahoe residents complained to officials to modify the way they are assessed. See “Golf Clubs In Tuckahoe Take Up Large Percentage Of District, Pay Low Percentage Of Property Taxes,” www.27east.com.

The Hills’ claim that they met the PDD law’s requirement to provide public benefits. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: PDD laws define public benefits to include the following: open space, housing for persons of low or moderate income, parks, elder care, [and] day care ... .” None of which is provided.
Fact 2: Existing laws provide all alleged public benefits anyway. Tell the Town Board to vote “No” on the Hills at Southampton MUPDD. Fight hard to protect your family’s health. Vigorously protect our drinking water, air and bays. Join forces with state and federal authorities to purchase this critical parcel.

Carolyn Zenk,an attorney from Hampton Bays, is a former Southampton Town councilwoman, general counsel to Group for the East End and recipient of the “Champion of the Environment Award” from former Vice President Al Gore. She is also representing an unnamed group of East Quogue homeowners who want the Town Board to reject the proposed The Hills at Southampton MUPDD." May 13, 17 6:26 PM

Dr. Christopher Gobler says the Hills is the worst option. AND SO DO:

New York State Assemblyman Fred Thiele
Suffolk County Legislator Bridget Fleming
Former Southampton Town Clerk Marietta Seaman
Former Southampton Town Trustee Fred Havemeyer
League of Women Voters of the Hamptons
Hampton Bays Civic Association
East Quogue Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC)
East Quogue Civic Association
Southampton Town Civic Coalition
Clean (Citizens for Clean Drinking Water/Air/Bays)
Save Sag Harbor
Flanders/Riverside/Northampton Community Association (FRNCA)
Water Mill CAC
Speonk/Remsenburg Civic Association
Remsenburg Eastport Speonk Communities United (RESCU)
Shinnecock Neighbors
Group for the East End
Long Island Pine Barrens Society
Citizens Campaign for the Environment
Long Island Environmental Voters Forum
Southampton Water Protection Alliance" May 13, 17 7:30 PM

Southampton Supervisor Reverses Course, Seeks To Throw Out PDD Law Without Replacing It

Dr. Christopher Gobler says the Hills is the worst option.

And so do:
New York State Assemblyman Fred Thiele
Suffolk County Legislator Bridget Fleming
Former Southampton Town Clerk Marietta Seaman
Former Southampton Town Trustee Fred Havemeyer
League of Women Voters of the Hamptons
Hampton Bays Civic Association
East Quogue Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC)
East Quogue Civic Association
Southampton Town Civic Coalition
Clean (Citizens for Clean Drinking Water/Air/Bays)
Save Sag Harbor
Flanders/Riverside/Northampton Community Association (FRNCA)
Water Mill CAC
Speonk/Remsenburg Civic Association
Remsenburg Eastport Speonk Communities United (RESCU)
Shinnecock Neighbors
Group for the East End
Long Island Pine Barrens Society
Citizens Campaign for the Environment
Long Island Environmental Voters Forum
Southampton Water Protection Alliance" May 13, 17 10:07 PM

This could have been written yesterday - but it was written 3 years ago !!!

Date: Jul 3, 2014;
Section: Letters to the Editor; Page: A12 VIEWPOINT

A Threat To Prior Environmental Victories
BY CAROLYN ZENK

The Hills at Southampton’s proposed change of zone, from 5-acre residential to a Mixed-Use Planned Development District (MUPDD), in East Quogue, on the largest remaining Pine Barrens tract—436 acres—should be vigorously opposed by the Southampton Town Board and the public. Write your Town Board. Tell them to vote “No.” See www. stopthehills.com.
This radical downzoning would destroy decades of environmental victories, culminating in critical Southampton environmental laws, including the 5-acre residential zone, open space law and the Aquifer Protection Overlay District.
Environmentalists worked long and hard to pass these highly protective laws, which could be gutted.

Under existing zoning, The Hills would receive 82 residential units. The town can use the open space law to cluster homes together and save more than 65 percent of the parcel as natural open space, and use its Aquifer Protection Overlay District to restrict fertilized turf to a half acre on the entire site, which would reduce nitrogen and pesticide pollution. Instead, the Town Board is poised to approve between 82 and 118 units, plus an 85-acre private golf course, restaurant, clubhouse, pool house and sprawling parking lots.

The Hills is on the groundwater divide—the “headwaters” of the aquifer system. Clean, fresh water must flow “off the hill” if public and private wells and the bays “downstream” are to be healthy and clean. We have already exceeded the capacity of our bay ecosystem, as evidenced by recurring brown tides.
For those who claim the MUPDD zone better protects the environment—“The Emperor has no clothes!” The Hills is a fraud foisted on an unsuspecting public.

Representatives of The Hills claim that the MUPDD would protect the public drinking water supply more than the existing zone. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: A toxic golf course is proposed on top of two Suffolk County public drinking water wells, which supply at least 179.3 million gallons of water a year to residents.
Fact 2: Well fields in the Hampton Bays Water District likely will be poisoned by the toxic plume of pollution generated by the golf course. The U.S. Geological Survey reports that groundwater flow is west from the site, east toward the wells.
Fact 3: Existing zoning limits polluting turf to a half acre for the entire tract. The golf course proposes 164 times more.
Fact 4: The golf course will generate two to three times the polluting nitrates than the existing zoning. The Cornell study concludes that golf courses generate 7.5 milligrams of nitrogen per liter, versus 2 to 3 mg/liter from 5-acre residential development.

Representatives of The Hills claim that poisons from the golf course will not get into groundwater or poison the public. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: The New York attorney general commissioned a study, titled “Toxic Fairways: Risking Groundwater Contamination from Pesticides on Long Island Golf Courses.” It concluded that Long Island golf courses used 192 pesticides with 50 active ingredients, including carcinogens. Health impacts included cancer, impaired nervous systems, optic nerve degeneration, decreased red blood cell counts and hemoglobin concentrations, low birth weights, toxicity to fetuses, toxicity to livers and decreases in sperm.
Fact 2: According to the American Cancer Society, one in two American men, and one in three American women, will get cancer.

Representatives of The Hills claim that the MUPDD will give the town more control over environmental impacts. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: The town will have no control over pesticides if it allows a golf course because of the doctrine of preemption, which holds that where state or federal governments have a pervasive set of laws on a subject, like pesticide use, they preempt local control.
Fact 2: The town has the power to limit fertilized/poisoned turf under its Aquifer Protection Overlay District. The preemption doctrine would not apply to turf controls. The town can further limit turf and, thus, reduce pollution by local law by amending the Aquifer Protection Overlay District or imposing covenants under the state Environmental Quality Review Act.

Representatives of The Hills claim that there would be no air pollution from pesticides. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: The attorney general concludes that pesticides drift far from their application.
Fact 2: The East Quogue Elementary School, East Quogue Main Street, the East Quogue Village Green, the East Quogue marine park and the Weesuck bird sanctuary are several blocks from The Hills. They will experience toxic aerial pesticide drift. The public will breathe poison.

Representatives of The Hills claim that the golf course will pollute our bays less than the existing zoning. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: The Cornell study concludes that golf courses pollute two to three times more nitrogen than a housing development in the 5-acre zone.
Fact 2: The Aquifer Protection Overly District limits turf to a half acre on the entire site.

Representatives of The Hills claim that the golf course development will generate $4.5 million in taxes to the town, and $3.5 million to the East Quogue School District per year or $10,000/acre. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: Golf courses generate half the taxes of residential developments. Tax records reveal that Sebonac Neck Property LLC generated $241,975 a year. The Atlantic Golf Club Inc. generated $52,246. National Golf Links of America generated $185,988.78. Shinnecock Hills Golf Club Inc. generated $180,257.32 a year. (Average: $785/acre.)
Fact 2: Taxes for golf course developments are so low that Tuckahoe residents complained to officials to modify the way they are assessed. See “Golf Clubs In Tuckahoe Take Up Large Percentage Of District, Pay Low Percentage Of Property Taxes,” www.27east.com.

The Hills’ claim that they met the PDD law’s requirement to provide public benefits. This is a fraud.
Fact 1: PDD laws define public benefits to include the following: open space, housing for persons of low or moderate income, parks, elder care, [and] day care ... .” None of which is provided.
Fact 2: Existing laws provide all alleged public benefits anyway. Tell the Town Board to vote “No” on the Hills at Southampton MUPDD. Fight hard to protect your family’s health. Vigorously protect our drinking water, air and bays. Join forces with state and federal authorities to purchase this critical parcel.

Carolyn Zenk, an attorney from Hampton Bays, is a former Southampton Town councilwoman, general counsel to Group for the East End and recipient of the “Champion of the Environment Award” from former Vice President Al Gore. She is also representing an unnamed group of East Quogue homeowners who want the Town Board to reject the proposed The Hills at Southampton MUPDD.
" May 13, 17 10:16 PM

WAY PAST TIME

It just doesn’t make sense.

On the one hand, our supervisor and Town Board are poised to eliminate the planned development district legislation due to the fact that it has become grossly distorted over the years and turned into nothing more than a vehicle for overdevelopment and speculation. While on the other hand, these same officials have been deliberating endlessly on whether or not to grant a PDD zone change to a billion-dollar out-of-state development corporation to build a golf course, with all its negative environmental impacts, over a dedicated Aquifer Protection Area in the Pine Barrens in East Quogue.

Something must be totally scrambled in our Town Hall. If they feel that the PDD legislation needs to be eliminated or drastically changed then how can our Town Board, in good faith, even consider “The Hills at Southampton” PDD application, which is the most impactful and egregious by far of any of these PDDs?

The central point of all PDD zone changes is the strength of the public benefits derived from the project. For example, a school or hospital needs to expand, and the only land available is zoned residential—a PDD would allow them to expand. The public benefit of a better school or hospital is obvious.

However, with The Hills PDD application for the Pine Barrens in East Quogue, there are no public benefits intrinsic to the project. But there are severe long-term environmental and health risks to building a golf course, with all its chemical pollutants, directly over our irreplaceable underground reservoir.

The applicant, Discovery Land Company of Arizona, has seemingly interpreted intrinsic benefits to mean promising oceans of money to various groups and projects in the East Quogue area. This is more in line with purchasing a zone change—which is one of the main reasons why the PDD legislation is on the road to be eliminated.

So here we are. Our supervisor and Town Board are procrastinating and dithering while we are being constantly bombarded by Discovery Land Company’s hired consultants and other paid minions issuing reports and letters to the editor advocating for this potential financial bonanza. Just remember: Consultants and lawyers are like portrait painters. They paint a picture to please their client … the one that pays them.

It is way past time for the supervisor and Town Board to vote and put an end to this PDD application. All it takes is courage.

Frederick Havemeyer

Bridgehampton" May 18, 17 9:37 AM

Way Past Time

It just doesn’t make sense.

On the one hand, our supervisor and Town Board are poised to eliminate the planned development district legislation due to the fact that it has become grossly distorted over the years and turned into nothing more than a vehicle for overdevelopment and speculation. While on the other hand, these same officials have been deliberating endlessly on whether or not to grant a PDD zone change to a billion-dollar out-of-state development corporation to build a golf course, with all its negative environmental impacts, over a dedicated Aquifer Protection Area in the Pine Barrens in East Quogue.

Something must be totally scrambled in our Town Hall. If they feel that the PDD legislation needs to be eliminated or drastically changed then how can our Town Board, in good faith, even consider “The Hills at Southampton” PDD application, which is the most impactful and egregious by far of any of these PDDs?

The central point of all PDD zone changes is the strength of the public benefits derived from the project. For example, a school or hospital needs to expand, and the only land available is zoned residential—a PDD would allow them to expand. The public benefit of a better school or hospital is obvious.

However, with The Hills PDD application for the Pine Barrens in East Quogue, there are no public benefits intrinsic to the project. But there are severe long-term environmental and health risks to building a golf course, with all its chemical pollutants, directly over our irreplaceable underground reservoir.

The applicant, Discovery Land Company of Arizona, has seemingly interpreted intrinsic benefits to mean promising oceans of money to various groups and projects in the East Quogue area. This is more in line with purchasing a zone change—which is one of the main reasons why the PDD legislation is on the road to be eliminated.

So here we are. Our supervisor and Town Board are procrastinating and dithering while we are being constantly bombarded by Discovery Land Company’s hired consultants and other paid minions issuing reports and letters to the editor advocating for this potential financial bonanza. Just remember: Consultants and lawyers are like portrait painters. They paint a picture to please their client … the one that pays them.

It is way past time for the supervisor and Town Board to vote and put an end to this PDD application. All it takes is courage.

Frederick Havemeyer

Bridgehampton" May 18, 17 9:38 AM

'The Hills' Developer Selects Wastewater Treatment System

The Baswood system may help but has risks and does nothing for the golf course which, by far, is the most threatening component of the project since it represents about 3.5 million sq. ft. of pesticide hungry turf.

I couldn't find anything from Duchess County, but I did find something on this company from Houston Texas:

http://www.beveragedaily.com/Regulation-Safety/Hollywood-Monstrosity-Shocking-video-shows-Dr-Pepper-BioViper-spewing-foam " May 25, 17 9:19 PM

Repeatedly comparing The Hills to SEBONACK and THE BRIDGE is crazy.

Sebonack was built on a previously developed property with dozens of structures and buried oil tanks. Not in the Pine Barrens. And, there were no homes there. It was a true summer camp.

The Bridge was built on the site of the Bridgehampton Race Track. Not in the Pine Barrens. And there were no homes there either.
AND, I was at a Town Board regular meeting where someone from The Bridge was asking for some dispensation – because they had an issue with the nitrogen standards they had to sustain!!!

You propose building The Hills in the Pine Barrens, adjacent to Weesuck Creek and the elementary school. Destroying over 100 acres of trees for a golf course and adding 118 (or now 165) homes and a 155,000 Sq Ft club house with underground parking for 200 autos.

The comparison is absurd.
" May 26, 17 11:00 AM

Havemeyer Files Petition, Will Challenge Schneiderman For Democratic Line In September Race

Forget about Party or Politics - who do I call when this algae behind my home becomes too revolting to tolerate?

Anna Throne-Holst? I'll need a good real estate agent to help sell my home.

And, do you think property values will be affected by water you can't swim in?" Jul 18, 17 7:39 AM

Can I buy some kind of filter - like I have on our kitchen sink...?" Jul 18, 17 7:41 AM

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