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Southampton Town extends Hampton Bays moratorium

I think its sad when people say "what we need..." or "we don't need any more......" Our economic system was founded upon entrepeneurs taking risks to supply what customers (users, communities,areas etc...) want and need. The reason there are banks in Hampton Bays is because it is a working class community that NEEDS banks. They are not coming here for the fun of it. The reason a Lord and Taylors or other higher end stores are not here, is because the community will not support it. It is amazing how many people who do not want anything "in my back yard" take the time to go to Riverhead to shop. Let all the businesses in Hampton Bays move, so ALL the tax burden will go to the residents. It is a shame what has happened to our economic system. See you all at Panera Bread. ( the same person I saw fighting against that was there getting a sandwich when it opened, only in America)" Jan 8, 10 7:32 AM

Southampton councilwoman accuses supervisor of trying to 'control' her

The last line of the article is the problem with Town Hall. Stop feeling a need for "drafting legislation." They cannot manage the current laws, why create new ? It's OK... worst case scenerio is that our taxes will go up to pay for this mess...." Jan 21, 10 3:32 PM

Southampton Town moves to clean up private properties

I guess no one cares that the town issued a majority of the contracts to business that do not pay taxes in Southampton Town. Blackman being the exception. Maybe if the town board did something about the lack of services and high property taxes, the local businesses would have a fair shot at the contracts. They just don't get it." Feb 2, 10 4:11 PM

Southampton Town Comptroller Wright reappointed

The Town will raise money the old fashioned way- tax the people without them knowing it. Create laws that they can enforce when they want such as Dark Skies and "made up" Sign Ordinances. Make the permit process so costly that only major corporations can afford to develop in the Town and bang them on taxes. Take away services and charge more for beach permits, garbage fees, etc.... They truly do not know what they are doing, they are trying to fix the engine while the boat is sinking costing the taxpayers money without "raising taxes" Socialism here we come." Feb 9, 10 7:42 AM

Staples given approval to go into Bridgehampton Commons

Southampton Town has made the planning process so costly and time consuming that only major corporate chains can afford to go through it. You need to get a lawyer and do a site plan for everything. That is why local entrepreneurs are moving out of the area and starting businesses in more friendly places. So all the members of local CAC's should stop whining about who is coming into the town. The Town Board has made the process too costlly for the average business person trying to make a living. Dunkerley's is a great store, if they wanted to move in where the Staples is going, could they afford it? Would they want to go through the ridiculous process? Will it be worth it?
" Feb 11, 10 9:27 AM

Citizens group urges town to preserve former motel property in Westhampton

Just remember...the more property the Town buys, the more everyone elses taxes go up...." Feb 26, 10 3:53 PM

Southampton Town Board tables hiring of sustainability coordinator

Will the members of Town Board and the green committee please supply us the energy savings that they individually have received by installing solar panels, geo-thermal, wind, or insulation upgrades to their homes. Wait, they probably didn't do it because it costs too much money. But let's make laws forcing other people to do what they are unwilling to do themselves.." Mar 5, 10 3:00 PM

Bishop will vote yes on health care reform bill

Tim Bishop NEVER paid for health care himself. Neither has his wife. Neither has the people who voted YES. Neither has the people who supported it. How do you spend money you don't have? Suffice it to say that more jobs will be lost, inflation will come because they will have to print money, and costs will sky rocket. The only good news for seasoned citizens is that they probably won't be around long enough to pay for this mess. We needed reform, not this. One more thing, a "closed" loophole ridden vote does not give confidence to the people about our way of government. This is about as close to a dictatorship that we could get. " Mar 22, 10 8:05 AM

Why? simple. This is government controlling our lives. READ the bill(now law). Unfunded mandates to states. Health care as a RIGHT. Under the old system, no one was denied care. Walk into a hospital and see for yourself. We needed reform, not this backroom dealing, non transparent, pork filled law that will cost us all. It would have been cheaper to buy the 30 million uninsured policies. It would cost under a trillion I am sure. Our freedoms are gone. Our Republic is gone evidenced by the way the health care bill was jammed down our throats. " Mar 22, 10 8:43 AM

How does it help? Lower premiums? What difference does it make if you save money in premiums but pay twice as much in new taxes, whether from the federal government or unfunded state mandates? Keep government out of it. Open up competition. Have tort reform. The congress has done away with the process. We are now a socialist state under Obama. Let's pass a law, then reconcile and tweak it and pay no attention to the constitution.. It is a bad way to govern. The Congress has also divided the country. We are approaching civil war only with no civility. " Mar 22, 10 4:19 PM

Hey Turkey Bridge, get a dictionary. "Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization which advocate either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources."

The Democrats slammed through this legislation with back room deals, kickbacks, and corruption. They circumvented the process and destroyed the constitution." Mar 23, 10 11:36 AM

OK, this is the FIRST legislation that was ever turned into law without a single opposite party vote, namely, NO republicans on board. Secondly, they circumvented the Senate having the final vote by using the "deemed passed" method. I guess lawful, probably not what the founding fathers wanted. Secondly, they want a "public option" for health care and ultimately a single payer system with the government in charge. I hate to say it, but it is a socialist method. If you think health care will remain in the private sector after Obama gets done your crazy. Big government in your pocket dictating the outlay of funds. Read the legislation. Look at his advisers read his speeches. He is doing everything he said he wouldn't on the campaign trail. " Mar 23, 10 12:56 PM

Hey "setyoufree" did you really write "Absolutely the did NOT use "deem and pass" - absolutely false. The bill passed the house in a straight up and down vote and now must be passed by the senate....."? I copied and pasted your text because I couldn't believe it. Before you start calling people names, you should get your facts straight. What was passed is NOW LAW.! Obama signed it today. The Senate is getting a reconciliation bill to "fix" the problems with the law. That is the backroom, buying of votes Obama did to get it done. If the Senate does nothing, it is still law. Hence the problem, people like you do not care about process (constitutionality) only results. Get educated before you post comments." Mar 23, 10 8:36 PM

President signs historic health care legislation into law with Bishop's support

What does Bishop care? Between him and his wife he doesn't have to pay for health care the rest of his life. The mere fact that the bill, now law, was so divisive was reason enough not to pass it. Even the most supportive Democrats have to admit that it was victory at all costs and that they viewed anyone who opposed them as idiots. NEVER has a bill become law without one single opposing/minority party vote in the house. It's sad." Mar 23, 10 9:46 PM

Local stationery and office supply shops react to Staples planned for Bridgehampton Commons

Has anyone here actually gone through the Southampton Town Planning process? It is a joke. No "small" entrepreneur can afford the process. Minimum 1.5 years, 20k and a lot of aggravation in between. The same people complaining are the same ones that make the process too costly by wanting special trees, special signs, site plan after site plan. Change the type of trees and get back to us.Thats the motto. The town has taken the small investor out of the process. Do you want a model? Look at the village of Patchogue. No vacancy's, family run businesses on main street. (yes I know a couple of chains, but the majority of stores are family run). Make the process faster, less expensive. Then you will see local people back in business or allow existing entrepreneurs to expand at a reasonable cost." Mar 25, 10 3:27 PM

Officials want to use Southampton Town's Community Preservation Fund to save Stony Brook Southampton

How about give the 10 million back to the people? With the cost of living (i.e taxes) going out of control on the east end, that would be REAL community preservation. It is easy to spend money when you don't have to earn it..." Apr 23, 10 11:46 AM

Closings spur concerns for winter season

Get used to it. Many more to follow. This is what happens when you have a Town that is anit-business, anti-growth, not in my backyard mentality. Moratoriums prohibit entrepreneurs from going into business. Those who are in business and want to improve their establishment have to jumb through hoops just to put up a new sign. Many with good ideas for businesses fail because of the time it takes for approvals. Look at all the empty storefronts. The towns attitude "besides that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play..."" Oct 19, 10 1:56 PM

Sorry, I should have said anti- small business. The only ones that can afford the process in the Town are large developers and big box retailers. Small business owners wanting to expand or invest in the town are prohibited by the costs. Your second point is spot on." Oct 20, 10 11:41 AM

Town Officials Question Legality Of Proposed Demolition Permit Law

Once again the Town is trying to dictate what people can and cannot do with their property. Just because something is old, doesnt mean that it is worth keeping. Have a provision that if the Town declares it historical, they must buy it.(did anyone say CPI?) Then watch their tune change. I am glad that Councilman Nuzzi and CB Benincasa are questioning the legality of this." Nov 4, 10 12:50 PM

Town Finds No Takers for Poxabogue Restaurant

The sad truth is that members of Town Board are not business people and have no clue on how much revenue must be generated to pay what they are asking. Also, stipulating the hours further shows their disconnect to business operations. No wonder the Town is in a financial crises. News Flash- business owners just cant raise revenues the way the Town can raise taxes and fees to make up for poor decisions." Nov 11, 10 2:03 PM

Morrow Has New Plans For 'Tuckahoe Main Street'

The reason why there are so many empty stores is because the Town of Southampton makes it so difficult for any business to open here. Even in permitted uses, the Towns procedures are so onerous that any "mom and pop" trying to go into business cannot afford it. The vacant storefronts are the product of poor planning and unrealistic costs of going into business. " Dec 7, 10 9:36 AM

Why exclude the new shopping center with Sleepy's? It's been vacant for several years. The fact that NO tenants have moved in shows the problem. Look around, there are many more vacancies than you think. Also, look at how long it takes to go through the process. You obviously have never been through it. As for the economy of the town. Buy local for the holidays. I always find it funny when I see members of the planning and town boards shopping in other towns. (Yes, sometimes I have to go elsewhere to buy when there is no place to go in Southampton)" Dec 7, 10 3:25 PM

If you think all you need is a microscopic sign to go into business in the town your are seriously misguided. Read the use classifications. ALL development has a form of speculation. There is nothing guaranteed. You obviously have never done it. To call someone an "idiot" for building something, employing people, expanding the tax base shows where you are coming from. Find a better adjective." Dec 7, 10 10:02 PM

Go to town hall, get a sign permit application, read it, and then comment. You have to do a site plan, hire an engineer, hire a lawyer, and go back and forth with revisions. Very costly. This is not the rest of Long Island, it is Southampton Town. Just about every use is "special exception" which means planning board review, which is expensive and puts businesses behind the eight ball before ever putting the key in the door. There is no strict meaning of retail. The Town restricts businesses within each category. Highway business, village business zones have different types of businesses for each one. Go to town hall. Don't get zoning confused with permitted uses." Dec 8, 10 7:27 AM

A simple yes or no question: Have you ever been through the planning board process?" Dec 8, 10 1:06 PM

Thank you for your honesty. All I can tell you is that you would be amazed at the soft costs do open a business and erect a sign in the town. I will have to discount many of your comments because you really would never understand unless you tried doing it yourself with your own money.sorry" Dec 8, 10 2:47 PM

Twenty-Eight Positions Could Be Cut At Eastport South Manor School District

Only on Long Island, when we have been in the worst economic times since the Great Depression, would you see the following paragraph.

"The $4 million in contracted and nondiscretionary expenses cited by Mr. Nocero include: a $1.1 million increase in teacher retirement benefits, a $750,000 jump in health insurance premiums, a $114,000 increase in general employee retirement costs, and a $1.5 million bump in staff salaries. "

Give back the "1.5 million bump in staff salaries", and "increase in retirement benefits" and no one would lose their job.

The property tax payers can no longer afford these "nondiscretionary" perks.

" Feb 17, 11 3:33 PM

Southampton Town Board Still Split On Energy Sustainability Position

This is an absolute waste of money. You don't need an energy audit to know that you have bad insulation(drafts) or an antiquated heating system. The problem is money. Unless you are willing to pay, you will keep what you have. Who on Town Board has Geo-thermal or PV systems? Loans have to be paid back. They are better off giving tax incentives with the money. The position is a waste. More government." Mar 3, 11 2:56 PM

Nature. Free Energy Audits have been around for years. You can also get them done for under 50 bucks if you look around. If they can guarantee that the position would be eliminated when the grant money runs out, then great. But as you know, that will not happen. Once the position is created, that is it. Also, seniors would benefit more from tax credits then paying something back. They are being forced out as it is,more debt to them is not the answer. Have seniors pay less taxes, get a dollar for dollar tax break, something along those lines would be best. Give the 60k a year plus benefits to the people spending the money." Mar 3, 11 3:57 PM

Simple. Unlike you, I do not think people are idiots. If someone wants to reduce their "energy use and ease energy bills" there are more than enough resources to do it. LIPA, Keyspan, Local insulation contractors, local heating contractions, local electricians, local air conditioning contractors, ALL have the resources to provide energy audits, promote government programs and finance anything a homeowner wants to do. Also, if you think that the job would be eliminated once set up, think again. What about the extra back office work and other costs associated that taxpayers would be responsible for? The lead position is just one part of the equation. This is not needed........." Mar 4, 11 1:54 PM

Fairway Restaurant Poised For Return To Poxabogue

Now, the same situation in the private sector. Mr. Murray would have to go to planning and get approvals for signs and use. Maybe he would be open by August 2012. The government should never have been involved in this. More taxpayer money wasted." Mar 23, 11 9:07 AM

Town Looks To Take First Step To Regulate Wastewater

This is a joke, Right?" Jun 2, 11 7:39 PM

Another proposed mandate by government. These people have to justify their existance by coming up with more and more regulations. What's next, white cars reflect too much sun and can cause blindness?...let's ban all the white cars in the Town of Southampton. I am sure all the members of town board with homes have solar electric, geothermal heating, sealed homes etc...wait, that costs too much, they can't do it on their salary. Let individual buyers and or homeowners decide for themselves." Jun 7, 11 7:41 AM

Westhampton Beach Village Expected To Discuss Plastic Bag Ban Next Month

Another attempt to hurt business and get involved where they don't belong. Don't litter and recycle... the environment would be fine...." Jun 30, 11 7:42 AM

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