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Jul 22, 2019 4:06 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Hampton Bays Nun Arrested In Washington, D.C. While Protesting Treatment Of Children At The Border

Jul 22, 2019 5:23 PM

Sister Mary Beth Moore usually puts her hands together in prayer, but last week, in Washington, D.C., she put them together as she was placed in handcuffs and arrested for protesting the treatment of undocumented children.

Sister Moore, 71, has devoted nearly 10 years to supporting the East End immigrant community, working full-time at Centro Corazon De Maria, an immigrant services nonprofit out of the Church of St. Rosalie on Montauk Highway in Hampton Bays, and serving as chairperson of Neighbors In Support of Immigrants.

She attended the Catholic Day of Action for Immigrant Children on July 18, a protest organized by several Catholic organizations to call on the Trump administration and members of Congress to end the practice of detaining children at the U.S. border, a topic that has received heavy news coverage in the past year. The event is the first phase of a campaign by Catholic leaders to address the treatment of undocumented families in the country.

“Many of us have been terribly anguished about the detention of children, which is cruel and completely unjustified, and I felt really helpless not knowing how to fix it, so to speak,” Sister Moore said as her reason for participating.

She was one of 70 Catholic nuns, priests and lay advocates who were arrested after refusing to leave the Russell Senate Office Building, on the eastern end of the National Mall, which they occupied as an act of faithful resistance. More than 100 others joined them to pray the Rosary and sing songs during the protest but did not stay long enough to be arrested.

“When we were asked to leave, we refused to leave. We said ‘no.’ Together, we chanted, ‘We respectfully refuse to cooperate,’” said Sister Moore, who lives in a convent in Bellmore, about 60 miles west of Hampton Bays, where she works.

She explained that those who participated agreed that staying to be arrested—which they knew would happen if they rejected three warnings from the police—would highlight their efforts and the issue they sought to change.

“We really wanted to create attention that all of our fellow Americans, whether they’re Republicans or Democrats or completely apolitical, that everyone would rise up and insist that these children be released from detention,” Sister Moore said.

She and the others who were arrested were placed in a holding room a few blocks away for three hours, during which time they were each fingerprinted and asked to pay a $50 fine before leaving.

Despite being handcuffed the whole time and forced to sit in a sweltering holding room, she said she felt a lot of “joy and relaxation” from those around her who had traveled from different parts of the country.

Outside the facility, a support team of four to five people hugged and thanked them for their dedication, she said.

This was Sister Moore’s first act of nonviolent civil disobedience—and she said she would do it again because she believes that much in the cause.

Now, back from her trip, she said she has a stronger commitment to continue advocating for the release of detained immigrant children. “It’s not about us. It’s about the plight of the children,” she said.

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The Trump administration needs to set up a rapid-action task force to build Marriott Hotels wherever foreigners find it most expedient to cross the border (illegally). The cost of these facilities - which presumably would provide a level of service and comfort that even Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would find acceptable - could be born by raising the application fees of the foreigners who are applying for Legal Admission at the US embassy in their home country, where they have chosen to remain ...more
By Funbeer (268), Southampton on Jul 22, 19 4:30 PM
My ancestors just showed up at the border in a boat. No application, no waiting, no authorization whatsoever. They were illiterate and had no particular job skills. But they were white, so I guess it was okay to let them cross the border.
By Julie Sheehan (8), East Quogue on Jul 26, 19 11:34 AM
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Thats probably not true unless they came in illegally. You may recall a place called Ellis Island where millions were detained, screened for health, and returned if they did not have a sponsor to support them.
By Spinny OHO (94), Speonk on Jul 27, 19 6:56 PM
hopefully the 27east comments section can use their imagination on this one and avoid repeating their past comments on immigration / political issues.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (718), southampton on Jul 22, 19 4:51 PM
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How imaginative? How about the news of a local nun getting arrested to protest the treatment of children!!!
By Red Flag (49), Southampton on Jul 28, 19 8:06 AM
How imaginative? How about the news of a local nun getting arrested to protest the treatment of children!!!
By Red Flag (49), Southampton on Jul 28, 19 8:06 AM
How many nuns had been arrested protesting the abuse of children at the hands of the church or protesting the wall around the Vatican City? The Press needs truthful reporting. Is it immigration or illegal immigration?
By Hamptonsway (88), Southampton on Jul 22, 19 5:43 PM
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The "abuse of children at the hands of the church" poses no moral dilemma; everyone agrees it's wrong.

On the other hand, not everyone agrees that the treatment of children at the border is wrong. That's why they protest.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 22, 19 7:30 PM
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Perhaps, you are missing the point of the Civil Disobedience article. They “protested the treatment of undocumented children.” Children...children...is the key word in the article.
By Red Flag (49), Southampton on Jul 28, 19 8:05 AM
Perhaps, you are missing the point of the Civil Disobedience article. They “protested the treatment of undocumented children.” Children...children...is the key word in the article.
By Red Flag (49), Southampton on Jul 28, 19 8:05 AM
Nuns doing illegal protest to help illegal people here. There were many abused in the church and no one stepped forward.
Time to step up to the plate on all things. Can't just chose, bad is bad....
By knitter (1802), Southampton on Jul 22, 19 7:00 PM
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Uh, perhaps you were absent that day, but as children we learned that to dissent and protest is not illegal in America. Such action is in fact patriotic.
Yes, many have been abused in the church, (assume you mean children), but your assertion that "no one stepped forward" is far from true. Thousands did. Ever hear of a grassroots organization comprised of laity and religious called Voice of the Faithful, e.g.? Just one example. Countless reports of people "stepping up to the plate" ...more
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Jul 22, 19 8:52 PM
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The Catholic Churches have been shed for protecting the Imani immigrants. And I suggest that you look up the definition of civil disobedience.
By Red Flag (49), Southampton on Jul 28, 19 8:10 AM
The Catholic Churches have been shed for protecting the Imani immigrants. And I suggest that you look up the definition of civil disobedience.
By Red Flag (49), Southampton on Jul 28, 19 8:10 AM
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By themarlinspike (429), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 23, 19 9:36 AM
Where was she in 2014 when Obama had children in cages - videos they attribute to Trump are from 5 years ago.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 10:23 AM
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The difference is Obama held them for a very short period of time, (the time allowed by law) and until a relative could be located. It was for safety, not for punishment or deterent
By PatrickKing (13), Sah Harbor on Jul 23, 19 11:58 AM
Obama kept them longer but lost a lawsuit limiting him to 21 days. Trump was turning children over to family members after a few days so they could be with relatives and attend school. Democrats called this "family seperation " and demanded that the children be held at processing stations.
By Spinny OHO (94), Speonk on Jul 27, 19 7:01 PM
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The difference was Obama didn’t do it as a deterrent as trump is. The children were by themselves or with someone who wasn’t a relative. Two polar opposite comparisons.
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 10:29 AM
Children in cages under Obama. PERIOD.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 11:09 AM
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Even though the difference is lost on you, most people can recognize the difference between "in some cases" and "in all cases."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 11:33 AM
AKA...following the law.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 23, 19 12:02 PM
Yes, lots of people throughout history were just following the law.

To paraphrase MLK: "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 12:26 PM
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Enforcing immigration law is not unjust. In fact, without it, we cease to have a country. Nothing could be MORE just.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 23, 19 12:54 PM
If you think indiscriminately separating children from families and putting them in cells is justice, there's nothing I can say to change your mind.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 1:05 PM
There was nothing indiscriminate about it. Those who didn't break the law were permitted to remain with their children. Those who broke the law, were not.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 23, 19 1:14 PM
Since those children lack moral culpability for their crime, they shouldn't be detained unless it's for their own safety.

If you think indiscriminately separating migrant children from their families and putting them in cells is justice, there's nothing I can say to change your mind.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 1:19 PM
Safety is exactly why children and parents are separated and detained. If you have a better idea what to do with kids temporarily, let's hear it.

There is nothing indiscriminate about separating migrant children from their families. Those who broke the law - yes. Those who didn't break the law - no.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 23, 19 1:29 PM
Many have family in the U.S. so it would be safer (and cheaper) to release them into that family's custody while their case is adjudicated than detaining them indefinitely.

If you think putting kids in cages for a crime they never chose to commit is justice, there's nothing I can say to change your mind.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 1:40 PM
Placing children with family when they can be located is EXACTLY what takes place. This is one of the functions of Health and Human Services. Kids are not detained indefinitely. That is patently false.

Placing children in a controlled environment temporarily is the safest way to ensure their safety. If you don't get that, there's nothing I can do to change your mind.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 23, 19 2:01 PM
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"Elora Mukherjee, the director of Columbia Law School's Immigrants' Rights Clinic, recently interviewed 70 detained migrant children in Clint, Texas. They were so dirty they had a stench, she says, and was unable to be near them without feeling ill.

The lawyer testified to Congress on Friday, telling the House Committee on Oversight and Reform about the horrid conditions she saw while inspecting facilities that are a key part of the Trump administration's child separation policy.

Over ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 2:21 PM
Again $ is the answer.Congress???????
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 2:24 PM
So in the absence of more funding you think it's OK to treat people inhumanely?

I think you and Sister Moore would differ.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 2:30 PM
I think the dems think so, just to vilify Trump.Terrible people.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 2:40 PM
Enforcement choices are handled by the executive branch. It's Trump's fault because he doesn't need congress to stop treating people inhumanely.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 2:56 PM
Is there anyone questioning the conditions?

Let's say just for discussion Obama had different policies. Weren't the same people treated inhumanely as well? A law suite file in 2015 indicates there was no difference.

Maybe it's not the policy....
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 23, 19 3:21 PM
Yes, conditions were different because there were fewer classes of people in detention.

There were fewer classes of people in detention because the Obama administration didn't have a zero-tolerance detention policy and kept families together whenever possible.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 3:26 PM
I have a question for you Fore - say a man has a daughter but they have no other family living nearby. Now say that man commits a crime while he has his toddler daughter with him. Should his daughter be placed in the men's jail with him? What if his daughter was 14, would you demand that this budding young woman be placed with a bunch of other criminals in general population? Or would you be horrified at the concept and demand that she should be given to CPS and held in a facility for children where ...more
By localEH (418), East Hampton on Jul 23, 19 4:51 PM
What "facility for children"? You're thinking of foster care.

Also, why is the man subject to bail? Did he kill someone or steal a candy bar?

Do you think crossing the border illegally is closer to killing someone or stealing a candy bar?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 5:08 PM
Lol nice way to avoid answering the question. I’ll wait until you actually answer.
By localEH (418), East Hampton on Jul 24, 19 9:21 AM
Would I want someone accused of stealing a candy bar to be released on their own recognizance rather than ask the taxpayers to foot the cost of detaining them AND their child? You're damn right.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 24, 19 9:25 AM
"Yes, conditions were different because there were fewer classes of people in detention."

Really? From the 2015 Obama era lawsuit:

Defendants do not equip holding cells with beds and generally do not provide detainees mattresses or other bedding. Defendants leave holding cell lights on at all hours, and detained individuals must attempt to sleep on cold concrete floors and hard benches.
The cells are often so overcrowded that not all detainees are able to lie down and instead ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 24, 19 9:34 AM
Po: I don't know anything about that lawsuit but I'm happy to read up on it if you can tell me who the parties were and what the final disposition was.

What I do know is that the average daily population in immigrant detention centers in 2018 was about 150% of what it was in 2015, so if conditions were bad then how do you think they compare today?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 24, 19 9:47 AM
Is there any question of the conditions today?

Per Defendants’ own guidelines, holding cell use should be
limited to a period of no more than twelve hours. In practice, the vast majority of detainees are held far longer. Defendants’ regular use of these filthy, cold, and often overcrowded holding cells for longer-term detention is dangerous, inhumane, and punitive.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 24, 19 10:40 AM
What do you mean by "any question of the conditions today"? There was recent congressional testimony about unsanitary and inhumane conditions. Republicans questioned AOC's statements and called her a liar so she went under oath, remember?

I still don't know what case you're referring to, but I'm still happy to discuss it if you can tell me who the parties were and what the final disposition was.

What I do know is that the average detention time in FY2017 was about 162% of the average ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 24, 19 10:52 AM
Is there anyone questioning the conditions? (btw, you responded to this above.

The case filed against Obama's DHS Secretary in 2015? See @18 posts below.

In the words of one detainee: “It felt like we were being treated like animals and not as human beings.” Other detainees characterized the experience as “inhumane and degrading,” “humiliating,” and “like a form of torture.”
Still another described “[t]he lack of food ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 24, 19 12:27 PM
Lol, I'd wager more than one case was filed against Obama's DHS secretary was filed in 2015 so you'll have to be a little more specific: who were the parties and what was the final disposition?

I still don't know what you mean by "is there anyone questioning the conditions?"

Is that an admission that the conditions are bad, or a request for statements asserting the conditions are bad?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 24, 19 12:47 PM
Now 19 posts below which lists the case... drink up my intentionally obtuse thirst friend.

More from the Obama era lawsuit:

Indeed, CBP officials force detainees to remove extra layers of clothing before entering the frigid cells. CBP officials regularly ignore detainees’ complaints about the cold cells, and it has been reported that officials threaten to make the cells even colder as punishment for complaining about the temperature.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 25, 19 10:29 AM
Who were the parties, Po? What was the final disposition?

Two very simple questions you can't or won't answer for whatever reason, and no, you didn't answer either of them above.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 25, 19 10:47 AM
Fore, if you don't want to view the case that is clearly identified below, just say so.

As to the variable of the outcome you've entered, you do your own research. I'm aptly highlighting the language contained in the Obama era law suit. Here's more:

A substantial number of the women are recent victims of sexually assault. Many other adults and children arrive traumatized by the dangers they have escaped and the harms they have suffered during their journey to the United States

By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 25, 19 11:39 AM
Thanks for pointing out the name of the case. I don't know why it was so hard to reproduce it in this conversation since I hadn't seen it below, but I've found it after drawing a couple of hints from you.

That case apparently remains unresolved. A pre-trial conference was scheduled on the tenth of this month for September 16, 2019 at 10:30 AM.

Looking forward to it!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 25, 19 11:50 AM
CBP is a rogue agency.
By Julie Sheehan (8), East Quogue on Jul 26, 19 11:31 AM
Children in cages under Obama in 2014 videos blame Trump. Accept responsibility, no excuses.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 11:39 AM
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Sure, Obama is responsible for putting children in cages in some cases.

Now will you admit that Trump is responsible for putting children in cages indiscriminately? I doubt it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 11:44 AM
Tens of thousands migrants not Trump's fault. He's stuck with funding from congress.Dems denied emergency at border and now it's an issue. Own it.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 11:52 AM
Lame excuse. You blame Obama, who handled the problem. Trump on the other hand failed miserably. Weak weak weak
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 12:07 PM
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How is it Trump's fault -migrants rush to US because of liberal policies-free everything and sanctuary cities/states.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 12:17 PM
It's not Trump's fault that people come to the U.S. but he IS responsible for how they're treated by the government once they're here.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 12:22 PM
With what money?Congress hasn't funded emergency dems denied existed.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 12:29 PM
The $4.6B humanitarian aid bill that passed in June notwithstanding, not having the funds necessary to detain people in humane conditions is a terrible reason to detain them in inhumane conditions.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 12:48 PM
How odd. We haven't had "liberal" immigration policies for at least 2 1/2 years, and the previous president, Obama, was knicknamed the Deporter in Chief. Plus would you uproot your family and move to another country because they have better policies? It takes something a little more urgent than policy before people flee their homelands.
By Julie Sheehan (8), East Quogue on Jul 26, 19 11:45 AM
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Obama handled it, trump freaked out.
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 26, 19 11:58 AM
So how should they be detained...?
By Biba (555), East Hampton on Jul 29, 19 6:54 AM
If they can't be detained humanely? They shouldn't be detained at all.

Enforcement priorities should reflect available resources.

Not having the money to treat people humanely is a terrible reason to treat them inhumanely
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 29, 19 2:39 PM
You got a big old bag of excuses there. Trumps policy was separating families, meant to be a deterrent. You can thank Stephen Miller for that one. Trump can’t handle anything.
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 12:32 PM
Facts r facts.Where's the money to fix the border emergency?There r 3 branches of gov't. Trump is only one.U r the one with excuses.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 12:48 PM
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Maybe if you can't detain people without subjecting them to inhumane treatment, then you shouldn't detain people.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 1:06 PM
Unlike other presidents, the buck doesn’t stop at trump. He blames everyone else
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 4:09 PM
LMAO...Obama was *infamous for claiming ignorance or no knowledge of activities in his administration. BTW, that's not "whataboutism" that is a fact.


*Obama Keeps Passing the Buck
From ISIS to the VA to the Affordable Care Act, the president always seems to find a scapegoat for his administration's failings.
Josh Kraushaar and National Journal. Sep 30, 2014

"The time-tested strategy for Obama: claim he's in the dark about his own administration's activities, blame ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 24, 19 8:49 AM
Opinion piece
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 24, 19 9:02 AM
ahhh, the deflection tactic du jour...day two.

This is the part where I post countless articles stating "Obama wasn't aware of [insert topic here]..." or better yet, the countless examples contained in the article?? Missed those, huh Fred.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 24, 19 9:30 AM
Sorry to disappoint you. You can print all the opinion pieces you’d like. I’m working , I don’t have time to refute your article. Feel free to keep posting your slanted stories.it is funny though, trumps administration is in a shambles. “Acting “ heads of departments and a high turnover rate for one. Differing messages from President than “acting” heads of departments. Keep posting.
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 24, 19 9:39 AM
Ahhh. Maybe the problem is that it's your opinion that is bogus, specifically, "unlike other presidents."



By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 24, 19 10:32 AM
Case 4:15-cv-00250-DCB Document 1 Filed 06/08/15 (notice the date)

JANE DOE #1; JANE DOE #2; NORLAN
FLORES, on behalf of themselves and all
others similarly situated,
Plaintiffs,
v.
Jeh Johnson, Secretary, United States
Department of Homeland Security, in his
official capacity

1. Plaintiffs are civil detainees confined in a U.S. Customs and Border
Protection (“CBP”) facility within the Tucson Sector of the U.S. Border Patrol
(“Border ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 23, 19 12:51 PM
See fores answer above.facts are facts. Try to bring some next round.whataboutisms are not facts
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 12:52 PM
"whataboutisms are not facts" Huh?

Didn't you say "Obama handled the problem?"

How so? His DHS Secretary was sued for the same issue!
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 23, 19 12:57 PM
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Bug, she was arrested for doing something WRONG. I try to live by MY Constitution and the our laws, what I perceive the law is...
I support MY President, hell I supported obama, didn't vote for him.
By knitter (1802), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 1:19 PM
Yes, the nun here purposely engaged in civil disobedience and to deny her a punishment would defeat her whole purpose, which is to make people wonder: "if a 71 year-old nun is willing to get arrested over it, maybe there IS something wrong with putting kids in cages."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 1:23 PM
Civil disobedience
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 2:38 PM
Does YOUR Constitution not include the presumption of innocence as mine does, knitter? She has been charged with violating a law but will have a trial. The results of that trial will show if she was WRONG or RIGHT.

Sorry to interfere with your unpatriotic beliefs.
By VOS (1219), WHB on Jul 23, 19 3:09 PM
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Fore that's like saying if a 71 year old priest is arrested for molesting a little boy then there is something wrong with having a law that makes child molestation a criminal offense. You have some very weird and biased logic.
By localEH (418), East Hampton on Jul 23, 19 4:54 PM
That's certainly a weird spin, local.

Here, the nun is willing to be arrested for trespassing as a form of civil disobedience to protest child detention and to make people "rise up and insist that these children be released from detention."

In your version the priest is not committing civil disobedience because he doesn't intend to get arrested, attract attention, or prompt policy change, he's just committing a crime and hoping to get away with it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 5:05 PM
Parents who put their children in hazardous situations can have those children removed from their care. Dragging kids across international borders without permission to do so and making them de facto criminals like the parents after entering the USA illegally is possible grounds for separating them from that "family". If they came legally , ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By bigfresh (4490), north sea on Jul 23, 19 4:07 PM
The federal government is not to blame for how and why people choose to come here, but they ARE responsible for how people in their custody are treated once they arrive.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 4:16 PM
If we had secure borders, they couldn't "arrive", as u put it.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 4:23 PM
They came seeking asylum at border crossings,following the law.
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 4:24 PM
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They come looking for handouts.Many countries' laws require asylum be requested in first country they go to.Not trek 2,000 miles to country they prefer.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 4:28 PM
Those aren't this country's laws, though.

Also, as long as America is an awesome place to be, people will be trying to enter illegally.

There was a bill in 2012 that passed the Senate and secured the border with military bases, drone operations, additional barriers...does anyone recall what happened to that bill?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 4:31 PM
@bigfresh: Since when is "permission to do so" required for any asylum seeker? These seekers are removing their children from situations more hazardous than the horror they face in flight. Imagine having to face such a Sophie's Choice, fresh. There but for the grace of God....
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Jul 23, 19 6:18 PM
"They came seeking asylum at border crossings,following the law."

Bull. If they are being held by Border Patrol, they did not cross at a port of entry, but between border crossings. They violated the law.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 24, 19 8:17 AM
Hey, Po, we'll take your concern for the rule of law seriously when we hear one peep of outrage from you over the appalling lawlessness of your cult leader, the squatter in the Oval Office.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Jul 25, 19 11:06 AM
I'd first need to know to what you are referring June.

For example??
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Jul 25, 19 11:33 AM
Here’s a question, do think the parents would risk everything if it was nice where they came from? They are parents looking out for their kids. It’s a ridiculous assumption to say they should have their kids taken away.whats with the “families “? You gotta get a clue sometime.
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 4:14 PM
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Dems were holding back funds stating there's no crisis at border. Also state says if there's a roof over head and food.. you're good. That's the law. Ohh but not for illegals only legal citizens.
By Win sky (53), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 4:26 PM
Can you cite where "state says if there's a roof over head and food..you're good"? Thanks!

Regardless, if the government says you're "good" and morality says otherwise, who are you inclined to believe?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 19 4:29 PM
I follow the law. Regardless if others don't. CPS laws.. look it up
By Win sky (53), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 5:45 PM
Yeah, I don't really do "look my point up for me" sorry.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 24, 19 7:05 AM
But this "nun" wouldn't do the same for the poor children abused by gay priests?
By Babyboo (288), Hampton Bays on Jul 23, 19 6:59 PM
Statement or question?
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Jul 23, 19 7:17 PM
@ Babyboo

Oooof!

Almost dislocated my neck when the stench of this stupidity reached my nostrils.

But - - - to answer your question - - - YES, SHE WOULD.

By the by, all those parishioners who pass into The Basilica of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary in Southampton every Sunday to profess their faith in a charitable, compassionate and forgiving god aren't pedophiles. (Just to clear up any doubts that you might have had [to judge by your post.])
By highhatsize (4115), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 7:29 PM
Your lack of comprehension and incoherent ranting is the source of the stench you are sniffing. Re-read my post and and your misfired response. I am embarrassed for you. However, I've seen many of your posts on this site and most of them are incoherent. Although your extremely high opinion of yourself is always on display.
By Babyboo (288), Hampton Bays on Jul 24, 19 7:06 AM
@ Babyboo

Quote:

"But this 'nun' wouldn't do the same for the poor children abused by gay priests?"
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SO you did NOT intend to imply that Sister Mary Beth Moore is a "fake" nun (Whatever that may be.) and that she is complicit in pedophilia?

Pray tell just WHAT WAS your intent then.
By highhatsize (4115), East Quogue on Jul 24, 19 11:32 AM
It looks like the leftist's coup attempt has come up against some obstruction.

...someone must pay
By loading... (575), quiogue on Jul 24, 19 1:24 PM
WE SHOULD ALL PRAISE Sister Mary Beth and her courage to stand up for the treatment of children. Yes there is the bigger issue of our border, etc...but....how many of you have ever been arrested for defending the treatment of children?

Thank you Sister Mary Beth for taking the time to go to DC and accepting the consequences of being arrested for your dedication to children. May God bless you and your community for your tireless work to improve this country and our government’s actions.
By Red Flag (49), Southampton on Jul 28, 19 8:20 AM
Yes, thank you Sister Mary Beth for taking action during Donald Trump’s presidency and not Barack Obama’s. Hogwash!!! You liberals make my stomach turn. Obama built the cages, stuffed children in there, and proceeded to deport 3,000,000 more. You liberals were SILENT! Including little ole’ Sister Mary Beth.


From Pacific Standard Magazine:
“Immigration experts were quick to note that many of the conditions Biden named—for instance, lack of beds and ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (562), Riverhead on Jul 28, 19 3:45 PM
How sick and depraved do you have to be to be disgusted and angry that a citizen, religious or otherwise, patriotically and humanely expresses horror over mass cruelty to children and is willing to suffer consequences for the privilege? I do not pretend to have detailed knowledge of what was happening during President Obama's time in office nor do you, Disease, but I do know that the numbers have increased dramatically since then and most significantly, current officials have stated that trump's ...more
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Jul 28, 19 7:26 PM
Now that we have a racist bigoted low moral loser for a president, that’s when you hear from decent people. You keep defending diseased, that’s on you. Trump is a creep, no way around that.
By Fred s (2866), Southampton on Jul 28, 19 3:51 PM
Current officials have also stated that you’re an opportunist and a phony...through and through. You only have a problem with the white male president.
Call me cold and callous all you want, but one thing I’m definitely not...is a phony. Liberals don’t like the facts. That’s why I post here daily to make sure articles such as this one about the sister is met with some type of an opposing view.
I will end by saying that I praise the sisters efforts and I do respect ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (562), Riverhead on Jul 28, 19 11:20 PM
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What bible is the nun reading?


Psalm 147:14
He makes peace in your borders; He satisfies you with the finest of the wheat.

Psalm 74:17
You have established all the boundaries of the earth; You have made summer and winter.

Jeremiah 31:17
"There is hope for your future," declares the LORD, "And your children will return to their own territory.

1 Chronicles 4:10
Now Jabez called on the God of Israel, saying, "Oh that You would bless me indeed ...more
By even flow (895), East Hampton on Jul 31, 19 10:42 AM
The "love thy neighbor" part comes to mind.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 31, 19 10:49 AM
The Hampton Classic, Horse Show, Bridgehampton