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Sep 8, 2016 3:51 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Supervisor To Meet With Shinnecock Hills President, Michael Bloomberg On Tuckahoe Road Reroute Proposal

Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman.  JEN NEWMAN
Sep 13, 2016 10:54 AM

Supervisor Jay Schneiderman said he, golf club president Brett Pickett and Mr. Bloomberg—who is a member of the club and also owns a house in the neighborhood—will discuss the public’s concerns with the club’s request to reroute the portion of Tuckahoe Road that runs through the golf course, and also discuss modified solutions.

Mr. Schneiderman said he wants to weigh the club’s proposal with continued input from the public.

“I think they have a legitimate concern about how changes in traffic patterns affect their golf course,” Mr. Schneiderman said of Shinnecock Hills officials, who have cited the safety of golfers as their primary concern.

“At the end of the day, if nothing changes—it’s fine with me,” Mr. Schneiderman said. “The golf course has lived with this for over 100 years, they can continue to live with it. I don’t have an attachment to any outcome here.”

At an August work session, representatives of the club proposed footing an estimated $5 million bill to reroute the road alongside the golf course instead of through it. Under the original proposal, the new road would then be donated to the town and the stretch of Tuckahoe Road running through the golf course would either be closed to traffic during the summer or removed entirely.

After dozens of community members voiced concerns about losing the views now seen from Tuckahoe Road, as well as about the accessibility and safety of the new road for students at the Southampton Montessori School, Mr. Schneiderman told club officials to come back with a revised proposal.

The private meeting of Mr. Schneiderman, Mr. Pickett and Mr. Bloomberg is scheduled for Friday, September 23. Mr. Schneiderman said the three will discuss changes to the original proposal, but noted that Mr. Bloomberg’s presence in the discussion would not influence him either way on the issue.

“I’ve met him a number of times, he’s a nice guy,” Mr. Schneiderman said. “He certainly is desirous of seeing a change there. I have a decent relationship with him, but no individual is more important than the other in my mind. The community has to come first. If I disappoint Michael Bloomberg—that’s the way it goes.”

Mr. Schneiderman said he would bring several alternatives to the original proposal to the meeting. He said he will suggest creating the alternate road but keeping Tuckahoe Road open to the public with a cul-de-sac in the middle to allow public access of views and picnicking. He said he also would suggest not connecting the proposed new road to the roundabout surrounding the Montessori School, but rather just creating a connection for emergency service vehicles only. Tuckahoe Road itself would then curve alongside County Road 39 through a connector road as originally planned. Another suggestion was the idea of leasing out a portion of Tuckahoe Road to the club during certain parts of the golfing season, which would give the town annual revenue from the deal along with the initial $1 million donation to the Tuckahoe School District, an agreement Mr. Schneiderman said the town could cancel at any time.

“That’s what I’m working on now,” Mr. Schneiderman said. “To see if there is a solution that is better for the community than it is for the golf course. I’m not going to do anything without an incredible amount of public input.”

Mr. Schneiderman said if an alternative proposal is selected by Shinnecock Hills officials, they would then need to bring the proposal before the Town Board in a work session.

Mr. Pickett could not be reached for comment.

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Pickett and Bloomberg will eat Schneiderman alive and he won't even know it.

But while nothing can come out of this to benefit the residents of the area, Jay'll be happy because he'll have his photo taken with them.



By Frank Wheeler (1823), Northampton on Sep 8, 16 5:08 PM
So you wanted to pick this guy to be supervisor? You people think the Democrats are the party of the working man, and the minority? WRONG.. The Dems are big money, and ca. be easily bought. The majority of this town has said no to the road removal, but Jay continues on with it. What a joker
By chief1 (2788), southampton on Sep 8, 16 5:10 PM
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By 1eastquogueinusa (34), East Quogue on Sep 10, 16 1:33 PM
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" I’m not going to do anything without an incredible amount of public input.”

Noted, and you will be held to this promise Mr. Supervisor.
By PBR (4952), Southampton on Sep 8, 16 5:23 PM
nice pic of Jay and Bloomberg at the classic!!
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Sep 8, 16 5:24 PM
§ 23-4 Standards of conduct.

A.Ethical conduct.

In fulfilling their public responsibilities, Town officers and employees shall act fairly, impartially, without taint of conflict of interest and without any appearance of conflict of interest.
By Mr. Z (11674), North Sea on Sep 8, 16 10:44 PM
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Yeah, holding the Bloomberg's grandson. They've already had their meeting.
Cute kid. Ugly Sellout of a Supervisor.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Sep 8, 16 11:56 PM
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Jay, stop the BS and tell mikey we are not for sale... Are you going for 18 and lunch?
Lets stop the BS and end the photo ops and drop the whole conversation with them...
By knitter (1903), Southampton on Sep 8, 16 6:00 PM
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Wow Bloomberg gets his own meeting with Jay. I went to the Supervisors office and got the most incredible run around by his secretary. It was not until other people walked into the room, which the secretary ran out of, that I could have a conversation regarding my concerns. Although not with her or Jay who simply got up from his desk and shut the door. Evidently the secretary is quite adept at putting people off. Her lack of people skills and awareness of her job as a public servant was astonishing. ...more
By AL (82), southampton on Sep 8, 16 7:17 PM
Wow Bloomberg gets his own meeting with Jay. I went to the Supervisors office and got the most incredible run around by his secretary. It was not until other people walked into the room, which the secretary ran out of, that I could have a conversation regarding my concerns. Although not with her or Jay who simply got up from his desk and shut the door. Evidently the secretary is quite adept at putting people off. Her lack of people skills and awareness of her job as a public servant was astonishing. ...more
By AL (82), southampton on Sep 8, 16 7:18 PM
Muppetts Take Southampton.
By zeke (40), southampton on Sep 8, 16 7:22 PM
They offered $5 million for the road, counter with $50 million, and threaten to make it a public course through eminent domain if they don't accept that. Time to Trump Bloomberg.
By dfree (807), hampton bays on Sep 8, 16 7:23 PM
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He's going to wilt like a daisy.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Sep 8, 16 7:55 PM
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Like a $5 Trollop during fleet week...
By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Sep 8, 16 10:08 PM
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Let this happen, and it's career suicide.

We'll find a way to have you ousted from office.
By Mr. Z (11674), North Sea on Sep 8, 16 10:09 PM
What is Article 78?

Article 78 is the article of the Civil Practice Law and Rules (CPLR), which establishes the procedure for challenging the determinations of administrative agencies, public bodies or officers. These include every court, tribunal, board, corporation, officer, or other person, or aggregation of persons (CPLR 7802 [a]).

Properly stated, Article 78 provides the procedure in New York State for obtaining the relief previously obtained by writs of certiorari to review, ...more
By Mr. Z (11674), North Sea on Sep 8, 16 10:40 PM
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Just as Jay got the Town of Southampton as a reward for his help to the elite of Easthampton (want to rent your house to pay for your property taxes? And disrupt your rich neighbors? Why not just sell some of your hedge fund holdings?) when Jay gives up the Town property to Ye Olde Golfe Clubbe he will be rewarded with a New York State sinecure courtesy of political influence. Department of Consumer Affairs commissioner or perhaps a board seat on LIPA our benevolent (malevolent? sometimes it's ...more
By dfree (807), hampton bays on Sep 9, 16 8:10 AM
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Bloomberg pays better.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Sep 9, 16 9:11 AM
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By C Law (350), Water Mill on Sep 9, 16 1:35 PM
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By lirider (288), Hampton Bays on Sep 8, 16 10:30 PM
Every one of the proposals - - - the original and all of Jay's suggested alternatives - - - SU*K! Just WHAT are the PROS that Jay is talking about that would merit another meeting?

Here's one that hasn't been mentioned. Reopen the road that parallels CR 39 from Tuckahoe Rd. to the top of St. Andrews Rd. for the enjoyment of the public and for more convenient access to the Montessori School and to the Greek Orthodox Church. That would be nice.

How about it, Jay?

And ...more
By highhatsize (4183), East Quogue on Sep 9, 16 2:18 AM
When the Town Board does the right thing here -- "Just Say No!" -- they can also resurrect the failed investigation into the hit-and-run death . . .
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Four years ago, as of today . . .
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of Sister Jackie Walsh, who was mowed down and left to die by the side of the road.

Rest in Peace.
By PBR (4952), Southampton on Sep 9, 16 5:50 AM
Jay: You are not in the legal position to sell a PUBLIC ASSET to a PRIVATE ENTITY!!! This road belongs tot he people of Southampton Town, every single one of us has a vested interest and there is no way that a bribe paid to the Tuckahoe School District is in the public interest. Town Board: Please listen, CLOSELY, to your constituents, remember you work for US!! This ill conceived plan , if approved, will mark the end of the political career of any associated with it . A simple NO to Shinnecock ...more
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Sep 9, 16 6:50 AM
I'm going to miss that nice road through Shinnecock-especially during those classic summer sunsets
By even flow (990), East Hampton on Sep 9, 16 7:43 AM
There's a really nice picture of Jay and Bloomberg in Dan's Papers with a baby.
Here's another real estate offer -- get the Goldman Sachs partner who owns the empty building formerly the library on the corner of Job's Lane and Main Street in Southampton Village to donate the building to the Town and we'll let them have the street they golf on.
By dfree (807), hampton bays on Sep 9, 16 8:12 AM
This is great the taxpayers said no, and Jays ego is saying yes.
By chief1 (2788), southampton on Sep 9, 16 9:25 AM
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Everything's been said...mostly against-with strong legit supportable concerns.

Those who are fore it, perhaps the ~250 members, and their lackeys, are using the pretense "safety" (and their $$$) to further snub and seclude. All they care about is winning.

To even entertain this proposal after a summer of record breaking horrendous traffic and accidents and fatalities, as well as the many other local/community issues that need attention, is not contributing to the solution. Stroke ...more
By foodwhiner (148), Southampton on Sep 9, 16 9:30 AM
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Jay stop wasting our time! Just read the comments here should be all the input you need on this situation.
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Sep 9, 16 9:34 AM
This is what the democratic party brings you: private golf course roads and private golf courses (East Quogue Hills.) Vote against the establishment: VOTE TRUMP!!!!!
By Taz (700), East Quogue on Sep 9, 16 9:39 AM
Hah! The club is Trump. Bloomberg is Trump. These are people who believe they can make the rules because they hold the gold. We are here to tell them they are wrong, very wrong. Should this proposal move a millimeter forward there will be more than an Article 78 case to contend with. Each player will be investigated for corrupt practices. Where there is smoke...
By VOS (1230), WHB on Sep 9, 16 10:56 PM
The difference is, ALL politicians can't get into office without being bought. They need the money to run. Except for Trump. Open your eyes, your vote means nothing. We need a change, and Donald Trump is the only chance we have at it. Our governments are rotten to the core.
By Taz (700), East Quogue on Sep 10, 16 9:33 AM
PT Barnum loved guys like you. How's life on Primrose Lane?
By VOS (1230), WHB on Sep 10, 16 10:37 AM
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Why are you even having a meeting, WE the people have spoke!
By Bond007 (22), Hampton Bays on Sep 9, 16 10:08 AM
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Is any of this legal? Private meetings and negotiations?
Can the people petition a court order to stop this unethical behavior?
We don't have laws with a system of checks and balances to protect our interests?
The last I knew, I live in a democracy, not some fascist regime
By ADAMSG (53), EAST QUOGUE on Sep 9, 16 10:20 AM
A situation where an issue of safety--legitimate or not--can easily be solved in a way that does not involve public property should not require a first meeting, much less a second. The public has cut/ is cutting into the dance of Schneiderman and Bloomberg. So, Jay Schneiderman you have been put on notice that by entertaining that second meeting, your reputation has been sullied in the eyes of your constituents and unless you act according to their will, it will mean no chance of your re-election ...more
By June Bug (2599), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 9, 16 11:17 AM
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Americans are forever electing candidates that ultimate harm them endlessly.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Sep 9, 16 1:13 PM
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My like of Schneiderman has turned to dislike
By deKooning (106), southampton on Sep 12, 16 2:14 PM
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Just put a stop sign and crosswalk markings at the parking lot and lets be done with this. The stop sign will work for all. It will mitigate speed on that road, cause cues that may dissuade some people from taking the road, allow motorists a longer view of the magnificent vista, increase the sense of security for the members. The club and the town will save much time and money.

This has now become less about the clubs desire for the road and more about the supervisor and his seeming disregard ...more
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Sep 9, 16 12:10 PM
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How about a nice bridge like Augusta. Hogan, Nelson and Sarazan Bridges. Shinnecock GC, Bloomburg, Pickett and the Jay bridges. Others to be named...
By knitter (1903), Southampton on Sep 9, 16 1:51 PM
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Yeah, it could be called the JayWalk.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Sep 16, 16 9:30 AM
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If this meeting happens , cue the peasants , complete with torches and pitch forks . Jay can you be co ego maniacal to ignore your EMPLOYERS??? you work for us
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Sep 9, 16 3:55 PM
Jay, sleeping with the very rich will not get you the desired result. They will make you look like a first grader. By the time you figure it out you will be gone to that political graveyard in the annals of past poor politicians. And by the way I voted for You.
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Sep 9, 16 6:30 PM
If the Southampton Town Board closes Tuckahoe Lane which passes
through Shinnecock Hills Golf Club, then they should close Tuckahoe Lane
with its speeders which passes through the Southampton Golf Club between
the eleven and twelve holes. If the Town Board grants Shinnecock Hills Golf
Club their request, they should all be ousted from office next election. Enough
all ready.
By Jimion (129), Hampton Bays on Sep 9, 16 10:16 PM
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The insignificance of Mike's proposals to date suggest that they are mere foreplay. One wonders what his real offer will be. A multi-million dollar "donation" to the Tuckahoe school district, perhaps, if Jay rolls over?
By highhatsize (4183), East Quogue on Sep 10, 16 8:38 AM
Democrats are politicians for the regular people? lmao ...... Trump
By chief1 (2788), southampton on Sep 10, 16 4:09 PM
First of all, anonymous posts don't count a "community input". Anyone that is opposed to what Bloomberg is proposing needs to take the time and let the Town Board know. The Supervisor takes meeting with many different people. However, unless he has overwhelming evidence as to why this is good for the Town, he would be in violation of his oath of office. The School District is a different entity from the Town and donations to benefit one entity should not be used to offset a detriment to another. ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 16 10:30 AM
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There has been tremendous opposition to the road closing. Whete have you been HB Proud? By the way HB isn't kind of strange that a public road should be discussed in private?
By chief1 (2788), southampton on Sep 11, 16 12:48 PM
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Chief1 - yes I know there has been opposition, but it seems to me there are a lot more posts sometimes that attendance at Public Hearings and Open Session at Town Hall. I would suggest that Bloomberg go the a work session that is recorded on SEA-TV and on the Town website and explain his proposal so the public can see it. l don't live under a rock, but with some of the nonsense that goes on the Town, I wish I did.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 16 1:15 PM
I am a homeowner on White Oak Lane, in Tuckahoe. Virtually everyone in this area, and beyond, have been affected by increased traffic out on the east end. To suggest that those who use the golf course are any more vulnerable to traffic incidents (from the trade parade) is ludicrous — equally ludicrous are proposals to divert the traffic onto surrounding residential streets. They've not tried stop signs, speed bumps, ridged pavement (rumbles), or the like. My guess is that they don't want ...more
By nycnml (3), southampton on Sep 11, 16 4:34 PM
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If you haven't already, go to a Town Board meeting and speak in Open Session. Your neighbors should do the same if they haven't already. Supervisor Schneiderman can't ignore you and say he doesn't know since it is on video and posted to the SHT website.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 16 5:46 PM
Shouldn't they be meeting with the HIGHWAY SUPT??????
By jeffscan (19), sh on Sep 11, 16 6:53 PM
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Yes, Gregor said NO and we all owe him our thanks.
My guess is tons of money will be given to his opponent in next election cycle by Club types. Alex has been ethical, has put people principle first. Same can't be said of some others. Warning: A bought and paid for Highway Supt. one day down the line may cave. From now on, candidates for that office sign a pledge to leave Tuckahoe Rd. alone because surely Club will try again down the line.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Sep 13, 16 12:37 AM
My like of Schneiderman has turned to dislike
By deKooning (106), southampton on Sep 12, 16 2:14 PM
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Back in the '80s Nancy Reagan said of drugs, "Just Say 'No' and walk away."
And so, Jay Schneiderman, take a page from Nancy Reagan and apply it to Tuckahoe Rd. Just say "No" and walk away.
By baywoman (165), southampton on Sep 12, 16 6:01 PM
money talks and yokel(s) (Jay) walk...all the way to one term
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Sep 12, 16 6:23 PM
Well, we know where the Supervisor stands and once again it is not with the residents. As of now, Councilwoman Scalera is the only Town Board member to speak on behalf of the residents against this proposal. Where are the other Town Board members on this? Finding herself on the right side of an issue again and clearly not afraid to say so. This Supervisor has proven to be out of touch with Southampton and a disappointment to many. 2017 is right around the corner...I know many are asking so what ...more
By Roughrider28 (80), southampton on Sep 13, 16 7:03 AM
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Why is jay still meeting? Shouldn't the board be there putting in their two cents. Sounds like a ath deal again...
Jay stop the BS and just say no... You're not in EH...
By knitter (1903), Southampton on Sep 14, 16 11:44 AM
Why is jay still meeting? Shouldn't the board be there putting in their two cents. Sounds like a ath deal again...
Jay stop the BS and just say no... You're not in EH...
By knitter (1903), Southampton on Sep 14, 16 11:47 AM
Common sense solution. Build small precast tunnel under road behind #13 green which would require a shutdown of about a week if properly planned. Also paint a couple of cross walks at #10, #12 and #13 crossings and install signs. Put 2 speed bumbs just south and north of clubhouse area to slow down traffic. A new road destroying the space between the cocks #12 and Southamptons #6 would deminish the golf experience of both holes.
By csims (3), Southampton,NY on Sep 15, 16 12:23 PM
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The tunnel idea is worth looking in to.
As far as the issue, a vast majority of the people who live, work, pay taxes, and vote here, are against a road change. Seems like the majority that want the change, only play here. Mr. Supervisor, you were elected to do the peoples' will.
By Hamptonsseashell (359), on Sep 18, 16 5:48 PM
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The Club could have thought up its own common sense "pedestrian safety" solutions and implemented them long before now, with Town help if necessary. They haven't, or won't.
The Supervisor could have heard the people by now. He hasn't, or won't.
They are up to something else and whatever it is it is wrong, and that's worth looking into, too.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Sep 18, 16 10:39 PM
I don't see the members of National Golf Links Club complaining that a much busier road (Shrubland) runs right between their course.
By Dayo (33), Sag Harbor on Sep 21, 16 7:05 AM
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Jay, show the people of Southampton that you represent their interest not the interest of the super rich. Closing roads near Route 39 just adds traffic to other already over crowded roads. Tell them to keep their 5 million. Thanks
By Ernie (88), Hampton Bays on Sep 23, 16 10:30 AM
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Do like the County. Do a $5 million dollar survey???
By knitter (1903), Southampton on Sep 23, 16 2:48 PM
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