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Feb 18, 2018 12:26 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

East Hampton Vigil Honors Those Killed In Florida High School Shooting

A vigil at Hook Mill in East Hampton on Saturday honored those who were killed in the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, this week.    KYRIL BROMLEY
Feb 19, 2018 10:21 AM

A vigil held on the Hook Mill green in East Hampton on Saturday honored the 17 lives lost in the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, this week. Among the speakers were East Hampton Village Mayor Paul F. Rickenbach Jr., East Hampton Town Councilman Jeffrey Bragman, and Rev. Donald Hammond of the Amagansett Presbyterian Church. KYRIL BROMLEY PHOTOS

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The same 2 dozen people at every left wing rally.
By NateNewtown (99), east on Feb 18, 18 2:26 PM
They admitted that the real reason behind it was to coordinate an anti-gun lobbying effort, rather than honoring the victims. Never let a tragedy go unpoliticized...
By localEH (426), East Hampton on Feb 18, 18 3:41 PM
@ NateNewtown

Actually, it wasn't a political rally but a gathering of compassionate, empathetic citizens expressing their sorrow over the tragedy and their commiseration with the victims and their loved ones.

Nevertheless, given the character of the attendees, your inference is doubtless correct - - - there were no Right-Wingers among them.
By highhatsize (4183), East Quogue on Feb 18, 18 3:39 PM
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The right wingers would have come if it was really about honoring the victims and showing their respect and compassion for these poor kids. However everyone with a brain knew that was not the purpose - the libbies immediately turned it into a political rally to launch a lobbying effort for more gun control in NY. I can’t think of a more selfish and petty thing than to turn the victims into a political football to promote your own twisted agenda.
By localEH (426), East Hampton on Feb 18, 18 3:47 PM
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By Babyboo (292), Hampton Bays on Feb 18, 18 6:43 PM
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By Frank Wheeler (1823), Northampton on Feb 18, 18 3:40 PM
By the way, people can sympathize without an audience. Only the left requires an audience a compassionate disguise for their political agenda. Always an agenda.
By Babyboo (292), Hampton Bays on Feb 18, 18 6:46 PM
Can you just get over left and right wing, children are dead, something needs to change - I am not anti-gun but believe that we need a new change quick in mental health or automatic gun control...
By Jac-man (22), Southampton on Feb 18, 18 7:00 PM
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it's absolutely disgusting to politicize the execution of 17 kids!
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Feb 18, 18 10:06 PM
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As if your position re: firearms isn't a political one.....
You should be disgusted that bribery money has bought and paid for those executions, and that there is blood on the hands of anyone who has/does not support/demand sensible gun control.
By June Bug (2599), SOUTHAMPTON on Feb 19, 18 1:43 PM
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LMAO... "bribery money"... "blood on the hands"... "support/demand "sensible" gun control"....

I'm sensing there is nothing sensible and sensible, nor common about common sense.


Feb 19, 18 2:28 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
...sensible about sensible...
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Feb 19, 18 2:28 PM
Like it or not, it IS now a political issue. One that very well may determine the outcome of the next election. To ignore it is even more disrespectful to the victims and to the victims of the next attack. So for those of you with kids, are their lives worth your "freedom"?
By johnj (1019), Westhampton on Feb 19, 18 1:22 PM
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JuneZ: agreeing with our constitution leaves one with “blood on their hands”? Insanity. Why is it when a thug is shot by a police officer the cop is blamed but when a lunatic shoots up a school the gun is blamed? Some consistency would make this discussion easier.
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Feb 19, 18 7:20 PM
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So Mr. "Consistency". Riddle me this: If guns don't kill people, only people, why are we so intent on preventing countries from getting nuclear weapons? Or don't nuclear weapons kill people, only people?

As for that Constitution you keep citing, as Justice Scalia said in his majority opinion, the 2nd amendment does not guarantee carte blanche to have any weapon you want for any use you want. Even Justice Scalia's majority opinion is full of permission slips for control ...more
By June Bug (2599), SOUTHAMPTON on Feb 20, 18 8:38 PM
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Follow the money... Russia, NRA, Trump to Zeldin. There is no way these people can ever wash the blood off their hands, The Constitution NEVER intended for every citizen to have an assault weapon.
By SpeedRacer (157), Southampton on Feb 20, 18 7:56 PM
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JuneZ, Chicago has quite restrictive gun laws and is damn near a war zone, how many gangstas have been shot this year? How about Detroit? Baltimore? Criminals don’t care about the law.
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Feb 23, 18 9:42 AM
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Where do criminals " purchase " guns ......?
By Sturgis (605), Southampton on Feb 25, 18 9:53 AM
From unscrupulous sellers in states that don't require background checks or sales records.
Feb 25, 18 10:01 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Or they could also come from unscrupulous sellers in states that DO have those requirements but purposely violate the law.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8048), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 25, 18 10:01 AM
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It’s highly unlikely that gangstas in Chicago legally purchase their guns! Criminals , by definition, don’t obey the law.
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Feb 25, 18 11:36 AM
But that gun was bought legally by someone at some point, right?

I guess it could have fallen off the back of the truck...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8048), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 25, 18 11:43 AM
"A Georgia man was caught trafficking 11 handguns he bought at a gun show into New York City, law enforcement sources said Monday.

NYPD officers and federal authorities found a small arsenal of guns and ammo inside Anthony Clark’s car when they stopped him on Staten Island Monday afternoon, police sources told the Daily News.

Guns from Georgia are routinely used in crimes in New York. From 2010 to 2015, 13% of all trafficked guns recovered in New York City came from Georgia.

Clark, ...more
By dfree (807), hampton bays on Feb 27, 18 7:18 AM
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Really old talking point that criminals will always get guns no matter what.Then why have laws on anything, drugs, murder, drunk driving, etc.
By Mets fan (1489), Southampton on Feb 25, 18 12:09 PM
You will NEVER succeed in removing all guns from the U.S. Criminals don't care about laws. Without law abiding citizens having the right to prorect themselves, our entire country will be Dodge City. Crooks will rule.
By Taz (700), East Quogue on Feb 25, 18 12:21 PM
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Never said all guns, getting rid of AR-15's and other high powered hunting rifles of same capacity will keep our school kids and our police safer. Making the process more difficult, with more education, ability to use guns profiencently, data integration with keeping illegal aggressive behavior or mental illness from obtaining weapons. Also, those that have weapons in their home that others in their household who use those weapons for mass murdered would bo on the hook as well. These are just common ...more
By Mets fan (1489), Southampton on Feb 26, 18 5:59 AM
"getting rid of AR-15's...will keep our school kids and our police safer" - Sounds good, only problem, they're not the weapon of choice statistically speaking, with @374 each year with rifles vs. @ 700 each year with hands, fists, feet, for example and @1600 with knives.

"Making the process more difficult...data integration with keeping illegal aggressive behavior or mental illness from obtaining weapons." - How? I think most would agree" - This is already being done, when the process works, ...more
Feb 27, 18 7:51 AM appended by Po Boy
"These are just common sense baby steps to protect innocent people." - "Getting rid of AR-15s and other hunting rifles" is NO baby step. That's a HUGE step and some would argue an infringement on Constitutional Rights. Let alone, a solution that lacks focus to what the real problems are. Society, poor, parenting (GASP!), violence in society - video games, movies, the desensitizing of death and violence, lack of respect for human life, over medicating, failure of current systems, lack of respect, removal of teachings of respect. Those responsible for the current state wish to push responsibility off to an inanimate object - the gun - when they themselves bear much of the responsibility. At what cost to a free society that weighs sacrifices every day on a host of other issues to maintain its freedom.
By Po Boy (5090), Water Mill on Feb 27, 18 7:51 AM
Can you be more specific on how "FBI and local authorities completely dropping the ball"?

There's no evidence that the shooter did anything that rose to the level of being reported to the NICS.
Feb 27, 18 8:38 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Also, "some would argue [an AR15 ban is] an infringement on Constitutional Rights" but they've been shown to be wrong time and time again, most recently when SCOTUS refused to hear a case dealing with a state's AWB.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8048), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 27, 18 8:38 AM
Just so I'm understanding, you're asking me to recount the publicly available information detailing some 49 instances (last count I believe) of complaints, decision not to interview, police calls to the home, social service interviews (with fresh curring marks on his arms no less), torturing and killing of animals, and tipsters that described him as a "school shooter in the making, not to mention his own verbal threats?" Any one of which could have resulted in action that would have potential had ...more
By Po Boy (5090), Water Mill on Feb 27, 18 10:51 PM
Oh, so more visits than already occured could have "potentially" led to him being put on the NICS?

Maybe we should ensure that what we KNOW he did would have DEFINITELY gotten him on the NICS, like getting kicked out of school for violent behavior.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8048), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 27, 18 10:55 PM
Openly making violent threats, harming himself, and the killing of animals are all red flags to mental health issues and violence, I've heard he even called about himself. The foundation was there under the current system to at minimum remove the firearms fro his possession.

The ball was dropped.

By Po Boy (5090), Water Mill on Feb 28, 18 7:55 AM
So you're saying he should have been arrested, charged, and convicted? That would have been great if possible but it's equally likely the officers didn't feel they had enough evidence to see an arrest through to prosecution/conviction, and exercised their discretion in favor of a young person, which happens all the time.

Obviously officers need to be able to exercise their discretion, so in a situation like this one a simple fail-safe would be to report violent behavior-related school expulsions ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8048), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 28, 18 8:36 AM
Usual pick and choose Right wing nut policy. Freedom loving neocons till it isn't the right thing to say.
By Mets fan (1489), Southampton on Mar 1, 18 5:46 AM
The Vegas shooter was not a gamer. Twisted excuses that come from the NRA.
By Mets fan (1489), Southampton on Mar 1, 18 5:48 AM
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