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Sep 18, 2014 11:16 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Bishop Votes In Support Of Training Of Syrian Rebels To Fight ISIS

Sep 24, 2014 9:36 AM

U.S. Representative Tim Bishop joined a bipartisan coalition in the House of Representatives last week in supporting a resolution authorizing U.S. military personnel to train Syrian rebels to combat the paramilitary group known as the Islamic State, or ISIS, in Iraq and Syria.

Mr. Bishop, who represents eastern Long Island in Washington, D.C., joined 113 fellow Democrats and 159 Republicans in voting on September 17 in favor of the measure that, among other things, supported a plan recently laid out by President Barack Obama to fight off ISIS. The final vote was 273-156, with three representatives abstaining. The following day, the U.S. Senate followed up by passing the same measure with a vote of 78 to 22.

On Tuesday morning, American fighter jets and drones bombed an ISIS stronghold in Syria, taking out weapons supplies, depots, barracks and ISIS-controlled buildings, according to multiple media outlets.

Mr. Bishop expressed support for the president’s plan, the extended use of air strikes and increased counterintelligence in the area.

“Since the September 11 attacks, our nation has taken the fight to terrorists,” Mr. Bishop said in his statement. “Our brave men and women in uniform supported by the defense and intelligence agencies have kept us safe from another attack on American soil. Now our allies on the ground in the Middle East must take the fight to ISIS, supported by our air power, arms and expertise.”

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What part of the deal struck between Dumya and Iraq that there were no American troops to be left in Iraq once the hostilities ended do people refuse to understand?
The president was elected twice to end military involvement in the Middle East, and the military will always push for involvement anywhere.
President Obama resisted a return to that pit of horror trying other avenues for awhile now, and IMHO it's only because ISIS has control of some major oil fields that we're going back. ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 18, 14 12:40 PM
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What? There was always supposed to a small quick deployment force left in Iraq after the major withdrawal, but your president failed to negotiate a status of forces agreement with the Iraqis.

It's funny that Obama and his bootlickers, including Phil Motyka, have been shouting about how wonderful it was that Obama pulled all the troops out of Iraq, and now that it's looking like a mistake, it was really GWB responsible for the troop pullout, LOL!

But hey, at least Al Queda is "on ...more
By ChrisDiPetta (37), on Sep 19, 14 5:38 PM
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
No, there was never supposed to be a "small quick deployment force left in Iraq after the major withdrawal". Maliki wanted no American troops left in Iraq. Period. And so the terms negotiated by GEORGE W. BUSH and Maliki requiring all US troops out by December 31, 2011 were met. The last were out by December 18, 2011.
And may I remind you that there was no Al Qaeda before GWB illegally invaded Iraq, and that that debacle of ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 19, 14 9:52 PM
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It was not up to Panetta or Obama or any of his "top advisors" to leave US troops in Iraq. There was an agreement in place before Obama became president signed by GWB and Maliki ending our presence there by a date certain which we were bound to abide by. Maliki did not want a residual force, and it was his prerogative and decision to make. Obviously, you do not know he refused to grant immunity to any soldiers if they were in fact left behind. In other words, he was saying no thanks and basically ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 20, 14 10:45 PM
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OK, we got it Capt America. You're too old to go yourself, so are you brining your 18+ kids to the recruiting office?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Sep 18, 14 1:14 PM
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Sounds more like candidates for the Navy. Ahoy!
By VOS (1241), WHB on Sep 21, 14 1:48 PM
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By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Sep 18, 14 3:15 PM
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By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Sep 18, 14 8:40 PM
to Captn America:

Actually, Captn, the phrase comes from a pamphlet by Revolutionary philosopher Thomas Paine. It reads:

"The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country."

An apt description on one who professes his desire to fight in the New Iraq War and then declines the opportunity to do so.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 19, 14 1:52 AM
if they come here captain will be ready
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Sep 19, 14 10:49 AM
What will tight cheeked townies do when ISIS/ISIL destroy all historic homes on the East End after they jump the Southern Border and head North.
By kpjc (161), east quogue on Sep 18, 14 6:21 PM
Hmm, Tim Bishop seems to change his tune when democrat is President and calling for war. Sure hope those weapons he and Obama want to ship overseas to the 'moderate' rebels don't end up in the wrong hands.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Sep 19, 14 9:22 AM
Andrew Klavan: Is ISIS Islamic?

Andrew Klavan, employs a crack team of investigators to determine if President Obama is correct when he declares that the terror group ISIS is not, in fact, Islamic.

IS ISIS ISLAMIC?

I’m Andrew Klavan and this is the Revolting Truth.

Obama: ISIL is not Islamic.

Today, the Revolting Truth takes on a hard-hitting investigation, fact checking the President of the United States himself in order to ask the question: ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Sep 19, 14 9:36 AM
the last part is very funny, sad but funny
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Sep 19, 14 10:47 AM
to They call me:

What a dope. Clearly the president meant that ISIL did not adhere to Muslim theological dogma regardless of what it chooses to call itself. One may debate the accuracy of that opinion but Klavan's assertion that is IS Islamic because it calls itself Islamic is beyond stupid.

The rest of his diatribe is the usual unsupportable Right-Wing cant, albeit a bit sillier than the usual extremist plat du jour
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 19, 14 9:47 AM
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obama is the most political and clueless President in the history of our nation.

The generals keep letting the truth slip out. They must truly be frightened by the stupidity the see coming from this man.His goals are definitely personal and political, but he lacks the skills, tact, diplomacy, experience, and honesty to achieve those goals.

He is a puppet of the left, and a poor choice even for their purposes.
Sep 19, 14 10:26 AM appended by joe hampton
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” H. L. Mencken
By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 19, 14 10:26 AM
Best reason we created a REPUBLIC!
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Sep 19, 14 10:32 AM
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Didn't you hear GENERAL Colin Powell say this past Friday night that President Obama was the right choice in 2008 and the right choice in 2012? Your assertions are ludicrous and laughable.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 21, 14 6:55 PM
OK, so this plan, for which Tim Bishop voted, is Pres. Obama's plan, supported by the votes of 159 Republicans and 113 Democrats. These three groups -- the White House, the House Republicans, and the House Democrats -- who ordinarily can't agree on ordering a hamburger, agree on this. Doesn't that cause you to think it makes sense? It does me.
By Turkey Bridge (1979), Quiogue on Sep 19, 14 11:20 AM
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The last time there was bipartisan support for anything it was a pay raise. My observation is that when these scoundrels agree, we need to take a closer look.
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Sep 19, 14 12:19 PM
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I liked that one Captn. So true. No wonder Bishop voted for this. He probably saw the word spend and voted for it anyway
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Sep 19, 14 4:05 PM
to Captn America:

Not a "straw man", Captn, YOU!

Had you purchased your plane ticket when I suggested, you would even now be "chewing real estate" in Iraq fighting ISIL. No worries about being sent to fight Ebola or climate change, the Peshmurga are focused on but one opponent (and they are accepting volunteers up to 70 years of age!)

Alternatively, you could remain enthroned in your comfy chair and continue to urge that your younger countrymen be sent to fight and die ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 20, 14 8:55 AM
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By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 20, 14 4:19 PM
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to Captn America:

Thanks for the addendum to clarify your solipsistic post.

Sorry that you felt slighted. Of course my gratitude extends to retired vets (including you, if you are one) but cold-blooded exhortations that our young men and women be sent to die, again, in Iraq do not become more palatable by virtue of one's past service.

Meanwhile, in the here-and-now, YOU STILL have the righteous opportunity to join the fight against ISIL and to prove your word.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 21, 14 5:15 AM
to Captn America:

Quote:

to Captn America:

Quote:

"Would that there were a way for the armchair soldiers herein who believe that ground forces should be deployed to volunteer their services." - me
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"Right-wing extremist with partisan dementia Cptn America reporting for duty." - Captn America
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You have doubtless forgotten that ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 21, 14 1:21 PM
I'm going to hate myself for trying to follow Cap's "logic," but here goes:

So Cap says this training measure was "lumped into (a) spending bill," and Razza likes that because he thinks Bishop never saw a spending bill he didn't like, ha-ha.

BUT THEN, fending off a sally from philathome, Cap righteously points out that this "spending bill" was actually the continuing resolution, without which government funding would have ceased, to the detriment of all candidates in an election ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1979), Quiogue on Sep 20, 14 5:24 PM
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By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 20, 14 7:23 PM
01000010 01110101 01101100 01101100 01110011 01101000 01101001 01110100

"...lousy leaders are as American as apple pie."

~ Robert Wuhl
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 22, 14 8:48 PM
Here's some statistics which left me swelling with pride...

The US is #1 in:

CO2 Emissions
Cases of Rape
Total Crime
Divorce Rate
Teen Birth Rate
Heart Attacks
McDonald's Restaurants
Plastic Surgery
Number of Persons Incarcerated Per Capita
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 20, 14 7:07 PM
The US is also first in the U.K.-based Charity Aid Foundation’s latest World Giving Index, which grades countries on three metrics: volunteering, helping strangers, and donating money, we have far more legal immigrants in our country than anyone else, we have far greater marine area under protection than any other nation, we possess 13 of the top 20 universities in the global rankings, our worker productivity is tops, we have more patents filed than anyone else, we give more than double the ...more
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Sep 22, 14 8:53 AM
And we have the one of the highest levels of income inequality. Our Gini Coefficient forty years ago was .406 before the end of the gold standard. It stands at .486 these days.

We've lost ground as a middle class. Severely.

As far as foreign aid, we print money out of the clear blue sky very well...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 22, 14 7:46 PM
Source: Refs say Colin Kaepernick used racial slur

Oh no anything but that,

Meanwhile in real news....
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Sep 22, 14 6:48 AM
to Captn America:

How wise you are to revert to naked assertion in your ultimate response rather than to persevere in your feckless attempts to validate your beliefs dialectically.

Your decision to do so is a predictable result not only of your dialectical inadequacy but of the political ideology which you espouse. The abandonment of rationality exemplifies the extreme Right-Wing preference for belief over reason - - and it's so much less stressful than actual cogitation.

Needless ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 22, 14 8:39 AM
$17+ TRILLION in debt and counting

Record number of people out of the labor force

Record number of people on food stamps

Open borders w/disease-ridden illegals flooding in

"Recovery", Obama-style
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Sep 22, 14 4:09 PM
You will only blame the last adminastration from 7 years ago! LMFAO... All day every day ... But the latest poll numbers show the majoraity of people have long lost faith in barack hussein obama

President Obama Job Approval - RCP Average
Approve 41.7 Disapprove 53.3
By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 22, 14 4:40 PM
To President Obama and our troops in harms way good luck and goods speed boys, Lets kick some Sharia tail...

The US and a 5 country Arab coalition launched air strikes against Sunni militants in Syria early Tuesday,

US fighter jets , flying alongside planes from several Arab countries, struck targets in territory controlled by the militants known as the Islamic State

By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 22, 14 10:01 PM
Roger that,

hoorah !

Time to clean this mess up !
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 22, 14 10:11 PM
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Region to remain in constant state of war until further notice.

Pacem in Terris.

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle
By Nero (301), Sag Harbor on Sep 23, 14 7:19 AM
Jeez Phil, when does your boy Barry take responsibility for the economy, foreign policy, illegals flooding the border or for that matter ANYTHING??!!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Sep 23, 14 7:23 AM
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By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 23, 14 11:38 AM
A prudent response and only the opening salvo of an extensive campaign that will eventually target the ISIL command hierarchy as well as its hardware and structures. However, this is realpolitik rather than righteous struggle. Those Middle Eastern Muslims who are our allies today are likely to be our enemies tomorrow (just like Afghanistan.) It's simply that ISIL is so unimaginably barbarous and insanely anti-everyone-who-isn't-their-sort-of-Muslim that eradicating it is our best option for ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 23, 14 11:45 AM
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By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 23, 14 5:11 PM
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I must say it is a nice change that obama took off the mom jeans and put on his big boy pants for a change.

Maybe we can do something this time to stop the real "War on Women" radical Islam

GOD BLESS OUT TROOPS !
By They call me (2826), southampton on Sep 23, 14 5:19 PM
yes I am sure even phil would agree these women need help
By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 23, 14 10:42 PM
"Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 23, 14 11:34 PM
Please , Do expand on that Z
By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 24, 14 8:41 AM
Soy is rich in phytoestrogens, The chemical structure of phytoestrogens is very similar to that of the human sex hormone estrogen (phytoestrogen literally means plant estrogen). The similarity of the structures allows phytoestrogens to sometimes mimic or inhibit the hormone in animals with estrogen receptors
Because they can interact with estrogen receptors, phytoestrogens have the potential to play a role in any biological process that involves estrogen . This has led scientists to believe ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Sep 24, 14 1:34 PM
The practice of returning a salute was started by President Reagan. President GW Bush did not salute with an empty hand, he was holding a dog.
The in NO requirement that the President return a salute.
My own personal take is that both Presidents Bush and Obama were out of line. Either salute properly or don't do it at all. A verbal response or a nod of the head would be appropriate.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Sep 24, 14 4:04 PM
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More false flag patriotism from do nothing alarmists.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 26, 14 4:34 PM
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to Captn America:

The only people who find it worth their time to complain about Obama's coffee cup salute (or George the Worst's dog salute) are carping old women. There are just so many more of them in the extreme Right-Wing.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 24, 14 8:14 AM
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to Captn America:

Once again, what passes for extreme Right-Wing rationality is overwhelmed by your partisan bias to find fault where none appears and by your attempt to deflect attention from your own habitual caviling. It is YOU, Captn, who is a "carping old woman", not all women and not all elderly women. (just as it is YOU who could prove his honesty by flying to Iraq to fight ISIL as he offered, not a fictitious "straw man".)

Is the KKK full of carping old women (a status ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 24, 14 9:35 AM
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<-------- Please help us high hat, Don't be heartless & mean
By They call me (2826), southampton on Sep 25, 14 2:12 AM
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to Captn America:

["meow"]

Quote:

"The entire education system - top to bottom - is rigged to teach kids to be leftist radicals..."
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With your decision no longer to attempt to validate your opinions authoritatively, your posts now expose the profundity of your extremist dementia.

By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 25, 14 4:56 AM
to Captn America;

Here you go. Captn. "Carping old woman" is a stereotype but hardly misogynistic (unless you seriously claim that it indicates a hatred of women) or disrespectful of "the elderly" (unless you have your own peculiar definition of "old") - or unless you are feigning an exquisite sensitivity in order to make a preposterous partisan point. (I will trust readers' judgment on the latter.)

A "straw man", in case you are unaware, is a fictitious or unlikely construct ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 25, 14 10:07 AM
Its nice to see the POTUS finally taking on presidential issues, granted he is being forced into it but enjoyable never the less.

God Bless Our Troops!
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 24, 14 1:37 PM
Barry Soetoro must be squirming in his panties because He has to finally act presidential. Calling Him an empty suit insults every suit ever made.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Sep 24, 14 7:15 PM
Washington (CNN) -- U.S. fighter jets pounded ISIS positions in eastern Syria on Wednesday, targeting what a Pentagon official described as mobile oil refineries being used by the so-called Islamic State terror group to help finance its operations.

Nice work !!!

God Bless Our Troops!

By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 24, 14 10:11 PM
When do we start missions in Mexico? More Americans have been killed by drug cartels than by ISIS. Obama has finally displayed presidential strength and made it clear, We have a right to violate a country's air space if necessary to defend our interests.

So when do we stop the madness on the border? Murdering Animals are Murdering Animals! It does not matter whether they are extremist Islamic terrorists or Drug dealing dirt bags!
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Sep 24, 14 10:34 PM
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Interesting observation UD, and as far as the suit thing BF, It was always fitted for Valerie Jarrett from the first day. Every one knows that
By They call me (2826), southampton on Sep 25, 14 2:11 AM
HOLDER LOSES GRIP
CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS CASE WILL PROCEED

Holder lowest approval rating of any political figure...
Judge denies DOJ delay request on release of 'Fast and Furious' docs...
Just two Obama originals remain...
MA Gov Headed To DC [Denies Speculation]...
Sharpton Says Helping Pick Successor...

Bout time


By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 25, 14 1:48 PM
Holder has been a racial activist form the start. As deplorable and partasian in his role as the rest of this adminastration in theres.

One of the most corrupt & racist AG's in US history. While I am glad to see he is gone, expect his replacement will be more of the same.

All that "Hope and Change" went to gov. sponsored racism but sadly, In retrospect it appears they could not help themselves... It's their nature.
By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 25, 14 2:01 PM
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He will still be on the job until a new AG is approved by the Senate.

It could take years...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 26, 14 4:33 PM
Once the ice starts to melt the Scotch is quickly diluted
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 27, 14 12:45 AM
to Captn America:

[“sigh”] Once AGAIN, you evade any attempt at actually substantiating your Right-Wing fantasies (e.g. “"The entire education system - top to bottom - is rigged to teach kids to be leftist radicals...", to name but one.)

Beyond that, your post is incomprehensible. I THINK that you are complaining that the context in which the above quote appears would mitigate its stupidity, but I'm not sure. If I am mistaken, perhaps you could describe the ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 26, 14 8:01 AM
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to Captn America:

Not likely, Captn. I don't frequent the kiddie pool.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Sep 26, 14 10:31 PM
In other meaningful news:

Leaked Audio Reveals Just How Much Wall Street Walks All Over the U.S. Government
By Tom McKay


he Federal Reserve Bank of New York is one of the most powerful institutions in the American financial system, as well as one of the most impenetrable to the general public. As one of the key regulatory agencies in charge of making sure big Wall Street banks play by the rules, it supposedly has a critical role preventing financial meltdowns like the ...more
Sep 26, 14 4:37 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. Sorry, conservatives. According to standard military protocol, it is not appropriate for the President of the United States to return salutes from uniformed military personnel because, although the President holds the title of Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. armed forces, he is not himself a member of the military, nor does he wear a uniform. ~ Courtesy of Vocal Progressives
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 26, 14 4:37 PM
Dear Mr.Z,

Your assertion that the it is not appropriate for the President to return a salute is simply not correct. It is absolutely appropriate. First, a salute is a sign of respect for the rank or office, not the person. Returning the salute is a sign of mutual respect. A private who salutes a 5 Star General will have the salute returned.

Every President, including Obama, have returned salutes. Have they all been inappropriately returning salutes for 200 years?

Why ...more
By ChrisDiPetta (37), on Sep 26, 14 4:59 PM
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Social convention is not code.

f. The President of the United States, as the commander in chief, will be saluted by Army personnel in uniform.
g. Civilian personnel, to include civilian guards, are not required to render the hand salute to military personnel or
other civilian personnel.

AR 600–25 • 24 September 2004
Sep 27, 14 11:04 PM appended by Mr. Z
And BTW, please do back up your statement about previous presidential conduct with some PROOF. It was started by Reagan who pretty much lived the latter half of his life believing the movies he acted in were real...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 26, 14 11:04 PM
Every time President Obama has evaded the constitution, Holder has been at his side,They have mutilated the Constitution whenever it stood in their way and they thought they could get away with it.

The President is doing a much better job the last few weeks, seems to be listening to Gen. Dempsey more and Valerie Jarrett less. Lets hope Obama has givin up on writing executive orders in regards to Illegal Immigration and circumventing the constitution.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 26, 14 8:26 PM
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I agree the president seems much less arrogant and spiteful as of late, making more sense when he speaks
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Sep 26, 14 8:37 PM
obama’s decision to delay executive action on immigration is promising as well.
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Sep 26, 14 8:47 PM
Being presidential is something Barry Soetoro is still trying to figure out, after all He just started last week. A leopard can't change his spots that quickly! Agreed that He has done a few things recently that almost appear reasonable. Mid terms coming up, sound bites required.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Sep 27, 14 9:30 AM
Obama: Muslims Must Reject Ideology of 'Network of Death'
The Wire-Sep 24, 2014
It is time for the world – especially Muslim communities – to explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of al Qaeda and ISIL

No God condones this terror. No grievance justifies these actions. There can be no reasoning – no negotiation – with this brand of evil. The only language understood by killers like this is the language of force.
By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 27, 14 10:33 AM
to little to late WASHINGTON (AP) The Homeland Security Department privately acknowledged that about 70 percent of immigrant families failed to report as ordered.why did we let these illegals in to take our jobs Obama administration carefully avoided answering questions about what happened to tens of thousands of immigrant families caught illegally crossing the Mexican border and released into the United States with instructions to report back to immigration authorities.they have vanished into the ...more
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Sep 27, 14 10:51 AM
Look on the bright side.

He didn't lose the White House china in a poker game.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 27, 14 5:35 PM
Obama was on TV six months ago saying isis are JV. Now he's on 60 minutes saying that he underestimated how powerful they are. Is this guy incompetent or just doesn't care? Oh can someone please blame Bush?
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Sep 29, 14 6:25 AM
Steve Kroft / Obama interview over the weekend -

Obama: "Absolutely True" We Underestimated ISISit's totally Clappers fault for the supposed-intelligence lapse, and Maliki's fault for Iraq's descent into chaos. Nothing about how Obama was not listening to his military advisors for months, and how they had to push him to do anything.

Obama has mastered throwing anyone and everyone under the bus. How does he get "folks" to work for him? They should know, by now, that they are all ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Sep 29, 14 9:23 AM
Fury as Obama blames intelligence agencies for Isis surprise
With his foreign policy approval ratings at a historic low, Barack Obama meets furious reaction after blaming US intelligence agencies for failing to predict rise of Isis in Syria

By Peter Foster, Washington 9:03PM BST 29 Sep 2014

President Barack Obama was facing a fierce political backlash on Monday night after he blamed US intelligence chiefs for being caught by surprise by the sudden rise of the Islamic State ...more
Sep 29, 14 7:21 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
THIS WAS THE DOG ATE MY HOMEWORK SPEECH!
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Sep 29, 14 7:21 PM
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lol
By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 29, 14 7:30 PM
BILL MAHER: President Obama keeps insisting that's ISIS is not Islamic. Well, maybe they don't practice the Muslim faith the same way he does. But if vast numbers of Muslims across the world believe, and they do, that humans deserve to die for merely holding a different idea or drawing a cartoon or writing a book or eloping with the wrong person, not only does the Muslim world have something in common with ISIS, it has too much in common with ISIS.
By joe hampton (3461), southampton on Sep 29, 14 7:29 PM
An American Muslim convert with a Facebook page that could have been written by Osama bin Laden himself chops off the head of a former coworker. Workplace violence, says the FBI. American warplanes bomb a previously little known terror group called Khorasan. The raid is carried out under the president's legal authority to attack on his own when there is an imminent threat. And who is this suddenly imminently threatening Khorasan? It turns out to be an al Qaeda cell populated by people who belong ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Sep 30, 14 11:05 AM
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I never would have thought I would find myself in agreement with Bill Maher!
By loading... (601), quiogue on Sep 30, 14 11:28 AM
really if that is not a sign what is?
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Sep 30, 14 12:14 PM
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Hans Blix United Nations Super Sleuth
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 30, 14 8:10 PM
was a good man
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Oct 1, 14 8:57 AM
Bush won the war, Obama lost the peace. Obama made it plain from the start that he saw no reason to keep investing in what he perceived to be a mistake. He let our military presence in Iraq lapse, traded 5 Al Qaeda king pins for a dirt bag deserter and left the Iraqi government to fend for itself when it was still far too fragile. There is a reason we stayed in Germany, Japan and S. Korea. We didn’t want our sacrifices to be for nothing, we didn’t want to have to fight again.
Sep 30, 14 2:53 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Howard Fineman: Last Nights Crissy Mathews Show Americans "More Sophisticated and Knowledgeable" Than Obama Gives Them Credit For
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Sep 30, 14 2:53 PM
Long thread here. So much hot air, you could have steamed a couple of big bass about halfway along. Good content though, if you like that sort of thing. You guys could probably sell it to Fox. I want 10% if you do -- my idea, right?
By Turkey Bridge (1979), Quiogue on Sep 30, 14 5:39 PM
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