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Sep 19, 2019 4:46 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Climate Change Is Happening On The East End

The agal bloom in Lake Agawam in Southampton Village.
Sep 22, 2019 2:21 PM

The flooding on sunny days on Dune Road in East Quogue or the harmful algal blooms found in Georgica Pond in Wainscott or Lake Agawam in Southampton are no accident. The earth is warming, and it has impacts beyond warmer air temperatures, some experts agree.

As world leaders convene at the United Nations this month for the Climate Action Summit to discuss various ways to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2050, local environmental experts explained five ways climate change is establishing itself on the East End.

Rising Temperatures 
Displace Wildlife

As temperatures rise due to the increased emission of greenhouse gases, animals are moving to cooler environments. Group for the East End President Bob DeLuca said the warmer temperatures are specifically disrupting winter flounder found in the Long Island Sound, as well as lobster and cod, forcing them north.

“A number of commercially viable fisheries have suffered because the warming water is not great for those critters that used to be here,” Mr. DeLuca said. “The temperature — it only takes a couple of degrees.”

Indeed, the State Department of Environmental Conservation’s Ocean Action Plan states that these greenhouse gases are affecting ocean ecosystems by raising temperatures and sea levels. “The OAP recognizes … the need to act in order to protect the continued viability of the goods and services the ocean provides,” the plan says.

Warmer temperatures aren’t just pushing these animals out either — they’re ushering in what are considered pest species, too. Mr. DeLuca noted that the southern pine beetle, lone star tick, deer tick and certain types of mosquito are expanding their ranges due to the longer warmer-weather seasons, which give them more of a chance to thrive.

Rising Sea Levels 
Cause Flooding

Global sea levels are rising 3.2 millimeters per year, according to NASA, and seas off Long Island, specifically, are rising about 1 inch every 10 years. Climate change is to blame: warmer temperatures cause ice sheets and glaciers to melt, and seawater also expands as it absorbs more heat that’s trapped in the atmosphere.

While there are no frozen glaciers melting on the East End, rising sea levels can contribute to more drastic flooding on the coasts — even when there are no storms.

Kevin McAllister, founder and CEO of Defend H2O, a Sag Harbor-based nonprofit dedicated to protecting Long Island’s various bodies of water, said sunny day flooding — where areas of lower elevation are overwhelmed with water during full and new moons — is a problem to watch out for.

“Obviously, the influences of sea level on the coast will be profound,” he said. “Even though we are on the ground … the frequency of the flooding and the pooling is pretty drastic.”

In 2017, Southampton Town spent $1 million to raise by just a few inches the most floodprone sections of Dune Road in East Quogue and Hampton Bays. It’s “just purely bay water and groundwater commingling and expanding,” Mr. McAllister said, noting that flooding on that road ruined one of his trucks. “That water is flooding from below — there’s no stopping it.”

The Redwood neighborhood in Sag Harbor also floods on sunny days. “That water table is coming up — now we have a situation where lawn chemicals and, more important, the septic system, are now sitting in groundwater,” he said.

Frequent Extreme 
Weather Events

Warming oceans and rising sea levels are also expected to bring more destructive storms to coastal areas in New York. The Environmental Protection Agency already reports that average annual precipitation in the Northeast has increased 10 percent since 1895, and rain or snowfall from storms has increased 70 percent since the mid 1900s.

“We’re having more frequent precipitation more often, and the storms seem to be more frequent and more powerful,” Mr. DeLuca said. “All of that, if you live in a coastal area, is of course a problem.”

The Ocean Action Plan further notes that due to warming temperatures, New York’s coastline can expect more instances of flooding, erosion and property destruction as well as interference with public services.

Shorelines Are Eroding

Rising sea levels are continuing to cause the erosion of East End beaches. Often, governments take precautions by undertaking shoreline hardening projects to prevent further beach erosion and to protect property owners — but these projects don’t deal with the problem of the rising sea level outright.

“We love to walk our beaches along the bays, and if we continue this trend of armoring the shoreline, we will obliterate our beaches,” Mr. McAllister said. “Ultimately, it ends up leading to the loss of fronting beach.”

He pointed out that Noyac Bay in Sag Harbor and Gardiners Bay in East Hampton are areas prone to erosion, as well as the Montauk oceanfront, where large sandbags were installed to protect property owners.

“Coastal habitat is squeezed out between the ocean and coastal development, so your dunes and beach grass and the critters that live in there, of which some are already in trouble, they don’t have a place to go,” Mr. DeLuca said of erosion.

“When you’re having local debates about more coastal development, shoreline hardening, all these kinds of things, you really have to magnify the general concern by the fact that there’s this overarching nemesis out there, which is climate change.”

Harmful Algal 
Blooms Increasing

Toxic blue-green algae do better in warmer water temperatures. While harmful algal blooms have been found in Suffolk County since the mid 1930s, the county’s Harmful Algal Bloom Action Plan notes that the different types of blooms and their frequency have increased and “may have reached a level unprecedented elsewhere in the United States.”

Harmful algal blooms disrupt fish and wildlife that live in these bodies of water, and also threaten public health and safety. The plan notes that from 2013 to 2016, cyanobacteria blooms were found in more lakes in Suffolk County and more often than in any other county in the state.

Lake Agawam in Southampton Village, Georgica Pond in Wainscott, and Fort Pond in Montauk have all been found to have this type of toxic blue-green algae.

How To Help

Addressing climate change as one person can seem overwhelming, since it’s a global issue. But local climate activist Dorothy Reilly, co-chair of the ad-hoc conservation group Drawdown East End, says there are solutions residents can start implementing themselves right now.

One is buying local food and wine to help in the fight against food waste, which is a major driver of climate change. In fact, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations reports that if food waste were its own country, it would rank third after the U.S. and China in the emission of greenhouse gases.

“Our mission is to make ‘drawdown’ a household word and get our community engaged in drawdown practices so that we are contributing to reversing global warming in a time frame that will make a difference to the whole world,” Ms. Reilly said. Drawdown East End stems from the nonprofit Project Drawdown, which focuses on solutions to reduce the emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

“We are going to have to find things that we can do individually and make some noise,” Mr. DeLuca said. “It comes down to individual actions and individual decisions.”

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this headline could be better... is it also happening in Nassau County???
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (741), southampton on Sep 20, 19 9:59 AM
It's a headline to a story about a global problem focusing on its impacts in our area (The East End). You ok?
By Pacman (270), Southampton on Sep 20, 19 3:41 PM
Dune rd has been flooding since day one and not only that it use to breach multiple times a year. The Georgica Pond has always been a disaster and it a good place to swim a bunch of horse poop
By chief1 (2791), southampton on Sep 20, 19 5:42 PM
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If “climate change” is responsible for the algae blooms on the ponds then why have the local governments contradicted that claim and declared that it is caused by nitrogen fertilizers? Why have the towns mandated that homeowners replace their septic systems at enormous cost when “climate change” is the culprit?
By localEH (426), East Hampton on Sep 21, 19 8:24 AM
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News flash: algae do better in warmer weather AND nitrate-rich environments.

Both things contribute to algae blooms. There is no contradiction.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 21, 19 8:51 AM
If the sea levels rising is of such great concern why do the Obamas and the elite spend tens of millions of dollars on houses feet from the ocean? Forget that their carbon footprint is 1000s of times greater than mere mortals.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 21, 19 8:24 AM
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Because rich people can afford to pay their way out of suffering the long-term effects of anthropogenic climate change.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 21, 19 8:53 AM
Try working one hell of a lot harder than you do now and become rich yourself. It's the American way.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 21, 19 9:10 AM
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I'm already rich
in many ways if not cash.
Read the context, though.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 21, 19 9:21 AM
Pretty sure the themarlinspike just said Obama is a hard worker.
By Pacman (270), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 4:29 PM
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I know Reagan, Bush, and Trump all owned waterfront property.

But Obama?

Where exactly?...
By aging hipster (201), Southampton on Sep 21, 19 9:56 AM
Martha's Vineyard. $15,000,000. It's amazing how your media keeps you people so sheltered.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 21, 19 11:59 AM
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So how did you find out? Paul Revere run through your yard?
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 21, 19 12:26 PM
Glacial warming has gone on from the ice age. The water shed areas, farms, are gone and houses built in their places adding to the pollution.
People want to save the environment after they get their place they carved in farmland or woods.
By knitter (1908), Southampton on Sep 21, 19 1:43 PM
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Carbon levels were stable in the atmosphere for the last 800,000 years, oscillating but not exceeding 290 ppm until the 20th century. The pre-industrial revolution C02 level stood at 280 ppm or lower for close to a million years. According to Milankovitch cycles, the planet should be cooling. It is not. CO2 is not the only driver of warming, but it's the canary in the coal mine, as it were. Without CO2, the planet would be a frozen wasteland.

We exceeded 400 ppm a few years ago. The significant ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 22, 19 9:12 AM
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“Democrat presidential candidates took part in the Polk County Democrats Steak Fry in Iowa Saturday, which featured thousands of sizzling steaks.

Their participation follows weeks of climate change alarmism from the presidential candidates, many of whom have signaled support for limiting beef consumption in order to combat what they say is a looming climate catastrophe.”

They also took dozens of limos and private jets.

But you keep eating veggie burgers and ...more
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 22, 19 7:12 AM
ENJOY!!!!

https://cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov/trends/co2/ice_core_co2.html
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 23, 19 8:57 PM
Pollution in the water is not caused by climate change. It's sewage and chemicals. Small town with over crowding people.
By Win sky (58), Southampton on Sep 22, 19 9:15 AM
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Algae blooms, in ponds, due to climate change? I’m the furthest thing from a denier, and the blooms are obviously caused by us not nature. But, I mean? Just seems a stretch. Especially since we’ve been told otherwise by scientists??
By banned (191), Hampton Bays on Sep 22, 19 1:39 PM
Lets hope it means less of that white filth and less tree damage this winter
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 22, 19 4:22 PM
Everyone can stop worrying, AOC is going the fix the whole mess in 12 years.
By HamptonDad (236), Hampton Bays on Sep 22, 19 7:41 PM
What is the upside of denying climate change?
By Mets fan (1493), Southampton on Sep 22, 19 8:16 PM
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What’s the upside of changing your life to fight it?
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 23, 19 5:55 AM
Even raises a great question ripe for game theory! Why would we make serious changes to our lifestyles when we are not going to suffer most of the consequences that future generations will deal with?

"The prisoner's dilemma is a paradox in decision analysis in which two individuals acting in their own self-interests do not produce the optimal outcome. The typical prisoner's dilemma is set up in such a way that both parties choose to protect themselves at the expense of the other participant."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 23, 19 9:19 AM
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0-1. Anyone want to take a shot at the upside of changing your life to fight climate change? Besides FEELING good about it, what does it actually DO?
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Sep 23, 19 10:54 AM
Remember when we reduced and reversed ozone depletion once we realized what cholorofluorocarbons were doing? It's like that, but requires caring about people that don't exist yet so I understand if it's going over your head.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 23, 19 11:25 AM
No. I don’t. Please explain. Make sure you include data about what have replaced CFCs with HFCs.


Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) are organic compounds that contain fluorine and hydrogen atoms, and are the most common type of organofluorine compounds. They are frequently used in air conditioning and as refrigerants in place of the older chlorofluorocarbons such as R-12 and hydrochlorofluorocarbons such as R-21.[1] They do not harm the ozone layer as much as the compounds they replace, ...more
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 24, 19 5:44 AM
Even flow, did you write that or lift it from say... Wikipedia? Please cite where you lift things from.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 24, 19 5:58 AM
Check mate.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 24, 19 6:10 AM
Hi Even, here's the executive summary of the UN's latest report on the success of the Montreal Protocol, as well as a citation for further reading:

"Actions taken under the Montreal Protocol have led to decreases in the atmospheric abundance of controlled ozone-depleting substances (ODSs) and the start of the recovery of stratospheric ozone."

Scientific Assessment of Ozone Depletion: 2018. UN Environmental Program, December 2018.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 6:51 AM
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Someday you're going to have to explain to your grandchildren, how you thought it was a good idea to support a dumbass dolt buffoon who thought the best thing to do was burn more coal than ever. Rolling back environmental regulations and laws for some short term fool's gold. Agent Orange can't see past his next golden throne he wants to sit on.
By Mets fan (1493), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 5:51 AM
Yeah, you're probably right. Energy independence from countries that wish death on our citizens and saving money by using the largest coal and oil reserves on the planet are horrible ideas.

Reminds me of an old joke. 'Whats the difference between a democrat and God?" "God never thought he was a Democrat.''
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Sep 23, 19 10:59 AM
Then why is the orange chimpanzee in bed with the Saudi's?
By Mets fan (1493), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 1:59 PM
NO COLLUSION
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 23, 19 6:31 AM
MUCHO ESTUPIDO
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 23, 19 8:55 PM
The upside to denying climate change is that you can go on and live your life without thinking you will die in 12 years.
16 year old puppet Greta Thunberg (miss climate change) is supervised by Luisa Neubauer. Neubauer works for the organization one.org (Bono). The organization is funded by, among others, Bill & Melinda Gates, Bono and the Open Society of George Soros (there he is...again). The rich and powerful elites are behind this. THIS is why we have deniers. Whether the scientists can ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 23, 19 8:43 AM
She should give up her cell phone for a week for climate change. Do something hard. Skipping school on Fridays is something that everyone has done.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 23, 19 8:47 AM
Says the right wing puppet.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 9:02 AM
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I don't understand how a President who is an environmental disaster doesn't bother you. Trust me, when places get inhabitable and massive migration continues as it does now, you'll care. Decisions of Obama moving unemployment from 10% to 4.8%. Seventy straight months of job growth. 149% increase in the Dow Jones Industrial average, what was so hard to take?
By Mets fan (1493), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 9:08 AM
No. I won’t care.
Migration doesn’t happen in this country to flee inhabitable places due to climate change. They flee those countries due to the implementing of the same socialist ideals that you and the rest of the liberals want to implement here in the US. Climate change is a globalist hoax and nothing besides. Trump just doesn’t stand for the BS lies that the elitist leftists try spewing to fit their agenda. Trump has his own agenda...it’s called “reverse everything ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 23, 19 9:26 AM
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By Mets fan (1493), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 5:33 PM
1970: The new ice age. We're all going to die!
1980: Acid rain! We're all going to die!
1990: The ozone layer is gone!. We're all going to die!
2000: Global warming is melting the glaciers! We're all going to die!
2010: Climate change! In 12 years, we're all going to die!

By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 23, 19 9:28 AM
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My favorite example is the ozone layer. Remember when we made changes in human activity and it started repairing itself?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 23, 19 9:49 AM
Sorry, Earth, The Ozone Layer Isn't Healing Itself After All
Ethan Siegel Senior Contributor. Feb 6, 2018. Forbes

The human narcissistic fallacy in clear view. "The reason for the continuing decline is not fully understood..."
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 23, 19 9:58 AM
The article you posted supports the fact that a decrease in the use of CFCs reduced and reversed some ozone depletion. So does the UN's report in November of last year:

"The Antarctic ozone hole is recovering, while continuing to occur every year. As a result of the Montreal Protocol much more severe ozone depletion in the polar regions has been avoided.

At projected rates, Northern Hemisphere and mid-latitude ozone is scheduled to heal completely by the 2030s followed by the Southern ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 23, 19 10:09 AM
2019, we're in a church, at a concert, at a religious institution, we're at school, we're at the mall or the movies. A man with a military assault rifle is shooting, we're all going to die. How about that one, po boy is that realistic?
By Mets fan (1493), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 12:49 PM
Well, thanks for quoting junk science and half truths. If that's what you've got, thanks for the load of horse****.

Your 1970 snippet alludes to a half truth related to Milankovitch cycles. Progression and procession should have the planet cooling right now. As it stands, the planet is not. Yet again, thanks for the horse****.

As far as your 1990 polemics, yes there is and has been sufficient evidence to show free radical chlorine was detrimental to the existence of triatomic oxygen. ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 23, 19 8:30 PM
Looks like I hit a nerve.

Ozone Layer Isn't Healing After All—and Depletion May Be More Harmful Than Ever
By Katherine Hignett On 2/6/18 at 7:19 AM EST

"But, for reasons as yet unknown..."
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 24, 19 8:46 AM
That appears to be in directly conflict with the UN's findings, but EVEN IF IT WASN'T it sounds like a terrible idea to prefer doing nothing.
Sep 24, 19 9:02 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
"reason" not "idea"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 9:02 AM
Who said we shouldn't do anything?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 24, 19 10:21 AM
You, here: "The human narcissistic fallacy in clear view."

You are implying it's narcissistic to believe we can change the environment, which is a justification for doing nothing.

All of that notwithstanding, it's evident we DO change the environment, for example by releasing harmful greenhouse gasses, but also in a positive sense by banning CFCs which resulted in desmonstrable ozone improvement, regardless of what you want to believe.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 10:30 AM
Are you changing what I wrote until it wasn't what I wrote, and claiming it's what I wrote when it wasn't what I wrote?

All that notwithstanding, it's not "evident" as you say, regardless of what you want to believe. Inaccuracies in historical climate data, limitations of modeling climate, solar variability and its impact on climate, the effects of clouds, ocean currents, and sea levels on global climate, all potentially mitigate perceived human impacts.

It's nothing more than ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 24, 19 11:42 AM
No, that's a direct quote. Also, it IS evident: Scientists overwhelmingly agree that anthropogenic climate change is happening.

You choose to disbelieve them because you think a burger tastes better with a clean conscience, but facts don't care about your feelings.

Besides, what do you care? You'll be dead and forgotten long before the effects of our cumulative decisions are inescapable!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 11:51 AM
But I never said, "we shouldn't do anything?" Right? Wasn't that all you?

And you're doing it AGAIN! Did I ever say "[I] choose to disbelieve them because you think a burger tastes better with a clean conscience?" Isn't this simply your prejudiced conclusion?

According to science I died 40 years ago. We might not even be having this pleasant exchange, it could all be a figment of your sorted imagination!
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:35 AM
That's right, I quoted you directly and explained my interpretation of your words. You're free to deny it, correct it, or print it out, put it in hot water and call it alphabet soup.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:44 AM
"That's right."

Your interpretation. Not "you said."
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 26, 19 10:28 AM
Lol, "I think you said" then. Feel free to correct me, but you probably won't.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 26, 19 4:20 PM
an armed citizen smokes the evil bastard with the assault rifle and HE dies, m'kay?
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 23, 19 1:20 PM
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Bigfresh, dream on. The good guy with a gun is total bs. You must have seen that in a movie.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 1:25 PM
BF wants to believe anyone with a gun is a good guy and will save him.

The problem is that everyone with a gun is a good guy until they're not.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 23, 19 2:09 PM
would you prefer to have an armed citizen in the scenario above? Or would you end up head down , ass up hoping the evil bastard goes away?
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 23, 19 1:29 PM
Fyi, the guy doing the shooting is an armed citizen, and I'd definitely prefer not to have them.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 23, 19 2:00 PM
And then the cops show up and shoot you, "Mr. Armed Citizen bigfresh". What brainwashed idiocy you spout.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 23, 19 2:11 PM
Spare me the macho bs. Look at all the mass murders. What did they all have in common? Cops were the only responders. Although the one in Texas, where he shot up church parishioners, a citizen winged him. I love the way you call everyone chicken shi_ s if they don’t agree with you. You’d think there’d be zero killings.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 1:38 PM
And right there ladies and gentlemen, are some examples of modern alt leftists. They prefer giving up to standing up for oneself.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 23, 19 4:34 PM
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You asked if being on line at the grocery store with random, armed strangers would make anyone feel safer.

No, it would not.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 23, 19 4:37 PM
Bigfresh, you are a clown. You don’t have a clue
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 4:43 PM
Here's big fresh answer to mass murder massacres, every single person should be carrying a gun. Keep your military assault rifle handy too.
By Mets fan (1493), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 5:31 PM
A gun has NOTHING to do with standing up for one's self. That's a load of bunk. A gun just makes killing easier. Just pull the trigger without a care. It's a weapon, and will NEVER be a tool. Unless you count tool of mass murder, which is pretty much a misnomer anyway.

Your total bs line of crap doesn't work in high pressure, life threatening situations. I'd bet money you'd freeze or miss the shot.

By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 23, 19 8:39 PM
Total uninformed post Mr. Z.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Sep 23, 19 9:43 PM
You just can't fix stupid.


"A gun just makes killing easier"
WHAT??

lazy, ignorant, boorish, and dumb.

Hmmmmm....let's see, human history, in which you seem to think GOD is the perpetrator in mass murder, harkens back to....
Swords, spears, clubs, rocks, bow and arrows, knives, bombs, and fist. All items used at one time or another to stand up.

OF COURSE a gun makes killing easier. WHAT are you getting at? It's the gun that does the killing? Only ...more
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Sep 24, 19 12:37 AM
Looks like I hit a nerve.
Sep 24, 19 5:04 AM appended by Mr. Z
“I hear a lot about gun control and truly it’s laughable. You will never ever rid the United States Of America of guns. Guns are all over the street. Did I have to get a background check to get an eight-ball of cocaine? No. All I had to have was a little money. There’s so many guns in this country it’s just pathetic. It’s asinine.” ~ Luther Casteel
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 24, 19 5:04 AM
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By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 24, 19 5:32 AM
C'mon bayman, tell us what you really think. You scared of a little red ink?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 6:52 AM
Calm down girls.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 24, 19 7:33 AM
Perk up pumpkin.
Sep 24, 19 9:52 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
You're done? Are we really that lucky?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 9:52 AM
Finally your humor is improving.
My work here is done.
Sep 25, 19 10:06 AM appended by themarlinspike
God Bless America. God Bless Donald Trump. God Bless My Gas Guzzling Car. God Bless My Green Lawn. (in that order)
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 24, 19 10:06 AM
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By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 12:28 AM
Biden openly admits to threatening the Ukrainians if they did not fire the investigator who was about to bust his son ...............................but Trump is the criminal for talking about it

Liberal spin at its finest .

The only thing President Trump is GUILTY of is exposing the Democrats.
TRUMP 2020!
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 23, 19 4:57 PM
Trump is exposing himself figuratively as the low moral loser that he is. You can spin the non existent Biden scandal all you want. Release the call, can’t wait to see Rudy’s spittle induced explanation.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 5:17 PM
do you deny that Biden is on video bragging about shaking down the Ukrainian government by threatening to denying a payment of 1 billion US dollars if they didn't fire a prosecutor?
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 23, 19 5:21 PM
You mean the corrupt prosecutor who stood idly by without prosecuting lawbreakers? The evidence conclusively shows that the replacement prosecutor was a GREATER threat to Joe Biden's son if he was dealing dirty.

Do you mean that guy?
Sep 23, 19 8:42 PM appended by Mr. Z
Shokin NEVER had any intention of prosecuting anyone involved with Burisma, and derailed the UK's investigation into what amounted to at least 23 million dollars in laundered money. But go ahead, keep swallowing the bull**** whole.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 23, 19 8:42 PM
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It’s on tape. Not “shaking “ down anyone. Trump allegedly, the tapes not out, asking the Ukraine president to investigate a political rival. Understand? Time will tell , after the tape comes out. In the meantime, you sycophants keep spinning your false narrative.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 23, 19 5:31 PM
Trump is the whistle blower! LOL

He forced the MSM to cover it. Time after Time after Time ... Brilliant.
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 23, 19 8:46 PM
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You just can't fix stupid.

EVERYONE who was involved with the investigation of Zelensky will tell you it was a Shokin snowjob. Ukrainians wanted Shokin gone. The UK wanted Shokin gone. The G-7 wanted Shokin gone. The IMF wanted him gone for Christ's ****** sake.
Sep 23, 19 8:52 PM appended by Mr. Z
"including Zelensky"
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 23, 19 8:52 PM
NO COLLUSION folks no collusion.

It’s all going to backfire on the Biden’s now with all the Lame Stream Media attention on the Biden’s corruption in Ukraine.
Joe almost blew a circuit today when asked by Peter Ducey of Fox if he ever talked to Hunter when he was in Ukraine and of course Joe lied and said he never spoke with him.
This whole thing will open up a can of worms that are crawling around in Joe’s empty head...bye, bye Joe the Marxist Media ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 23, 19 9:14 PM
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Agreed , the Biden’s are going down !! This may be the most epic boomerang in US history. It won’t be long before the D-Rats and the colluding propaganda MSM will wish that they never opened up this can of worms. Everything they accuse Trump of the Democrats have done it plain view. Witch-hunt 1 and 2 is about to blow up in their faces.

Watch Rudy Giuliani’s beat down of the Biden’s on Fox News Sunday if you can handle the truth!
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 23, 19 9:26 PM
Good luck with that.

If a Democrat was behaving like Trump, all the Repulicons would be screaming "TREASON!" like bloody murder.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 24, 19 8:07 PM
Another made up story that trumps little fish swallow. Can’t get more foolish then you nuts.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 24, 19 5:28 AM
How about this: if either Trump OR Biden engaged in quid pro quo for personal gain, they should be held responsible!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 6:53 AM
Trump Didn’t Mention Foreign Aid ‘Quid Pro Quo’ During Call with Ukrainian President: Report
By Jack Crowe September 20, 2019 5:03 PM

Trump urged Zelensky to launch an investigation into Vice President Joe Biden’s son on eight separate occasions during the July call but did not make an offer of foreign aid in exchange for the opening of a probe, as has been widely speculated.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 24, 19 8:51 AM
Whether or not it was explicitly mentioned, IF either Trump OR Biden engaged in quid pro quo for personal gain, they should be held responsible!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 9:01 AM
"Explicitly [not] mentioned"... "IF"...

Gotchya'
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 24, 19 10:21 AM
In other words, Trump didn't mention quid pro quo according to Trump.

I'll trust him as far as I can throw him and would rather see the transcript.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 10:26 AM
No, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal.

I'd be interested in transcripts of Obama's phone calls. I didn't trust him none too much.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 24, 19 11:20 AM
So you trust annonymous reports in the WSJ now? Ok, then.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 11:25 AM
Oopsie:

We have been informed by the whistleblower’s counsel that their client would like to speak to our committee and has requested guidance from the Acting DNI as to how to do so.

We‘re in touch with counsel and look forward to the whistleblower’s testimony as soon as this week.

~ Rep. Adam Schiff
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 24, 19 8:01 PM
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Double OOPSIE:

“The Burisma case has been a systematic problem for years, first Prosecutor General [Viktor] Shokin, then Lutsenko blocked the criminal investigations. The pressure from Joe Biden was really needed, we welcomed it with gratitude, now it is up to the newly formed team of prosecutors to revisit the probe.”

~ Darya Kalenyuk
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 24, 19 10:34 PM
So you trust annonymous reports in the WSJ now? Ok, then.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7744), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 11:25 AM

Sure why not. Isn't it the press' job to run down the details.

So you trust anonymous sources, allegations from a "whistleblower" who has no first hand knowledge of the conversation, and substantiated allegations?

Sounds like Russia 2.0, doesn't it?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:14 AM
Before Trump's admissions, my statements were couched in "if" exactly because the report was based on an anonymous complaint.

See I don't trust anonymous sources like you, Po.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:19 AM
Sorry if you're upset the facts and particulars began to filter out.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:29 AM
On the contrary, I'm glad there's no explicit offer of quid pro quo in the transcript. On the other hand, I'm upset that the president is soliciting opposition research from a foreign state actor in a federal election.

I understand you don't care if a president breaks election laws, but I think most Americans do.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:51 AM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Will the Democrats apologize after seeing what was said on the call with the Ukrainian President? They should, a perfect call - got them by surprise!
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 11:08 AM
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I think we should all be surprised that a president so blatantly requested opposition research on a political from a foreign state actor for help in a federal election.
Sep 25, 19 11:40 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
"political opponent"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 11:40 AM
"Blatantly requested"? Hmmmm… I don't see a request....anywhere.

Are we back to the DNC, Hillary and the Steele dossier, yet again? You know, the one where opposition research was conducted on a political opponent with assistance and input from a foreign state actor - Russian, for help in a federal election?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 26, 19 11:22 AM
The President requested the help, not a political campaign, see the difference?
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 11:41 AM
If you don't think "do me a favor" is a request, your comprehension problems are beyond my ability to help.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 26, 19 4:22 PM
A political campaign has zero power over world leaders. A campaign cannot withhold money to a foreign country.its kinda simple, the president and a political campaign are way different.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 4:45 PM
Msm and liberals in full meltdown over the “treatment” of 16 year old exploited actress turned Soros puppet saying “how dare you criticize this innocent child”!
Meanwhile 16 year old Nick Sandmann who stood and smiled at a Native American loser gets attacked, smeared and besmirched by same people. Liberal hypocrisy at its best.

Meanwhile....
President Trump at the UN:
“The future does not belong to the globalists...the future belongs to the patriots”!

By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 24, 19 3:56 PM
The future belongs to people who don't exist yet and will not remember us fondly.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 3:58 PM
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BOOM. Truth hurts...

Republicans Only Pretend to Be Patriots
Paul Krugman

Republicans have spent the past half-century portraying themselves as more patriotic, more committed to national security than Democrats. Richard Nixon’s victory in 1972, Ronald Reagan’s victory in 1980 and George W. Bush’s victory in 2004 (the only presidential election out of the past seven in which the Republican won the popular vote) all depended in part on posing as the candidate ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 24, 19 8:33 PM
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Paul Krugman? From the New York Times? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Take this quote from a fellow economist Thomas Sowell instead:

“The next time some academics tell you how important diversity is, ask how many Republicans there are in their sociology department.“
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 24, 19 9:08 PM
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Ask Thomas Sowell how many black Republicans there are in Congress.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 24, 19 9:22 PM
So, where's your MIT PhD?
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 24, 19 10:31 PM
You mean *BOOM* here’s the opinion of a NYT hack who could not have been more inaccurate when he insisted that Trump’s election would crash the markets and dive our economy into tatters.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 25, 19 5:49 AM
Meanwhile, the Treasury is injecting a 400 billion bailout into the market...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 25, 19 7:01 AM
Trump's farmer bailout is now larger than the bailout for American carmakers during the Obama administration.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 7:05 AM
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Isn't it America's farmer bailout? That's like saying, "Obama's carmaker bailout."

How much is China's trade practices costing Americans?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:26 AM
That's right! It was Obama's carmaker bailout, it was Obama's big bank bailout, and it's Trump's farmer bailout.

You tell me, Po. My question is whether those costs of the trade war are outweighed by the supposed benefits that haven't materialized so far.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:47 AM
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Ed Henry of Fox News reported Tuesday evening on Hannity that the Office of Intelligence Community Inspector General found that the so-called “whistleblower” who raised concerns about President Donald Trump’s discussions with foreign leaders had a “political bias” in favor of one of Trump’s rivals in the 2020 presidential election. You dims didn’t learn the lessons of the Robert Mueller probe. You assumed for two years the special counsel would get the goods ...more
Sep 24, 19 11:24 PM appended by 27dan
Now Trump should demand the release of Biden's conversation with the Ukrainian president. Heck, Trump can probably declassify it and release it himself!
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 24, 19 11:24 PM
At some time or another, it will be necessary for the military to intervene to put down this coup attempt.
Sep 25, 19 12:39 AM appended by They call me
Real Clear Politics 9/25/19 Trump Job Approval Hits 2-Year High
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 25, 19 12:39 AM
What you are describing is a coup.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 5:42 AM
Formal Impeachment Inquiry =/= impeachment. In fact it’s a lot of nothingness to avoid working on behalf of Americans. Anything good for America is politically bad for democrats

They are doing it to you democrats again. And you’re falling for it. Again.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 25, 19 5:53 AM
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I understand that you don't care if the president solicited help from a foreign state actor in a federal election, lots of Trumpets don't. Most of the Senate doesn't either, but Pelosi is betting enough Americans do.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 6:32 AM
Trumps acting like a two bit despot , if you think that’s fine, he’s your man.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 6:54 AM
Impeachment is a quixotic endeavor.

No matter the gravity of crimes uncovered, Republican senators are not going to convict Trump. They have spent two years enabling his lying and dissimulation and are accessories in his daily frauds. Finding him guilty would be to find themselves guilty as well.

The ballot box is the only solution. We have to sweep ALL these criminals out of office (and hope that Trump doesn't blow up the world in the interim.) Until then, we must endure ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 25, 19 6:37 AM
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I think that's Pelosi's gamble, Hat: Impeachment by trial of public opinion rather than trial by Senate.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 6:43 AM
If you think impeachment is a quixotic endeavor wait until you see how quixotic an endeavor trying to beat the President at the ballot box is, not to mention the quixotic nature of 4 years of name calling.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Sep 25, 19 9:20 AM
the Alt left here are coming apart at the seams, now watch as they go from ballistic to postal after Trump victory in 2020 !

Sane America has had ENOUGH of the DemocRats charade !

They spoke of trying to impeach since day 1 ! No one believes anything the media or the LibTard party spits out anymore ! President Trumps approval rating is at an all time high and the only reason for this last ditch foolish attempt at impeachment is that the Dem's know they cant beat the President at ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Sep 25, 19 9:20 AM
Educated Americans don't think it's OK to solicit help from a foreign state power in a federal election. That's why Trump loves the uneducated.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 9:26 AM
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" Educated " or delusional ? Americans across the country this morning are scoffing at Nancy, Nader and Shiffty's effort and questioned why Democrats were choosing to pursue impeachment on such no evidence nonsense ?

Democrats will now have the burden of explaining Obamas former Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden’s indiscretions.

Instead of investigating that, Democrats want to spend the next year explaining why it was perfectly normal for Joe Biden’s ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 25, 19 9:45 AM
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All that’s needed is roughly 53% of the electorate to agree. It’s probably a smaller number. He’s still polling at 37-40%, that’s not a winning number.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 9:49 AM
As the economy booms the desperate witch hunt continues ...
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 9:53 AM
Hi TCM. Conducting foreign policy on behalf of a presidential administration, as Biden did, is not a crime.

Soliciting opposition research from a foreign state actor to aid in a federal election campaign, as Trump did, is.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 9:57 AM
37-40% ? Where did you get that from the Huffington Post ?

Friday, September 20, 2019

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.

Tuesday, September 25, 2019

Real Clear Politics Job Approval Hits 2-Year High RCP average 45.7

By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 25, 19 10:03 AM
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" Soliciting opposition research from a foreign state actor to aid in a federal election campaign" LOL How about creating opposition research from a foreign state actor to aid in a federal election campaign " The Steele dossier "

Hilarious ...
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 25, 19 10:08 AM
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"Soliciting opposition research from a foreign state actor to aid in a federal election campaign, as Trump did, is"

You're referencing the DNC funded Steele dossier, yes? You know, the fake dossier that was used as the basis to spy on a president and his administration, right?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:09 AM
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Did the DNC request help from a foreign state actor or did they hire a law firm who hired a private contractor who did it on his own volition?

Here, in contrast, Trump personally made a request, by his own admission. Whose fault is it that Trump doesn't know the law?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:17 AM
No quid pro quo.

Die mad.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:27 AM
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@ joe hampton (& Ditch Bum)

As I first said to you on Sept. 16th:

"Why-oh-why do you true believers keep posting these nonsensical Rasmussen 'statistics' that only affirm normal readers' assessment of your blind bias and/or dishonesty?"

Trump is still polling at 43%*. His numbers haven't changed significantly for the past year.



*"How unpopular is Donald Trump?" (FiveThirtyEIght, Sept. 25, 2019)
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 25, 19 10:34 AM
Oh I'm not mad, Po. I'm glad there's no direct evidence of quid pro quo in the transcript of Trump's call with Ukraine's president. That would've been terrible for America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:41 AM
There is no direct evidence of quid pro quo in the transcript. "Mr. Trump, under pressure to release the transcript, had already confirmed he had discussed former Biden with Zelensky and confirmed he slow-walked aid to Ukraine, although he claimed the two acts were unrelated."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7749), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:23 AM

But still rooting for indirect evidence which would be equally bad for America, right? You think the fake dossier and the ensuing witch hunt was ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:50 AM
Who is "rooting" for indirect evidence? There's already circumstantial evidence and I do think that's bad for America.

What witch hunt? The Mueller report did not exonerate Trump. The evidence uncovered WAS bad for America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:55 AM
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Yeah, Demorats gave Russia exactly what they hoped for. Of course that's bad for America.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 11:01 AM
I was speaking specifically to the evidence of obstruction by Trump.

A president who uses his office to harm opponents and help himself is dangerous.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 11:07 AM
I was speaking specificaly of Democrats being used as pawns to give Russia exactly what they hoped for.

A president who defends himself from unsubstantiated relentless attack is exactly what this country needs.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 11:10 AM
There's nothing illegal about being defensive. There is something illegal about requesting opposition research on a political opponent from a foreign state actor for help in a federal election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 11:38 AM
Are we back to the DNC and Hillary again?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 1:58 PM
Who did the DNC or Hillary request opposition research from? It wasn't a state actor! Trump did, though. By his own admission.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 2:04 PM
Vyacheslav Trubnikov and Putin aide Vladislav Surkov. The Clinton campaign and the DNC continued to fund Fusion GPS's research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day, did they not?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 26, 19 8:17 AM
The DNC and Hillary didn't request any information from a foreign state actor.

They hired a law firm who hired a private investigator who did it on his own volition.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 26, 19 4:18 PM
Cant we all just get along?
By Fellow H. Beer (7), Hampton Bays on Sep 25, 19 7:22 AM
More free beer!!!!
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 7:43 AM
Typical Democrat.

More free stuff.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:10 AM
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Really? It’s my favorite.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 10:15 AM
No doubt. "Free" usually is for democrats. Problem is, it's not "free."
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:42 AM
Like any red-blooded American know, the best kind of beer is "cold" and the sevond-best is "free"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 1:19 PM
In your case you are missing the comedy gene.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 1:59 PM
Was that comedy? Seems you settled for sevond best!
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 26, 19 10:26 AM
No Quid pro quo
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:18 AM
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There is no direct evidence of quid pro quo in the transcript.

"Mr. Trump, under pressure to release the transcript, had already confirmed he had discussed former Biden with Zelensky and confirmed he slow-walked aid to Ukraine, although he claimed the two acts were unrelated."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:23 AM
Classic Democrat bait and switch and a glowing example of how adepth Democrats with the help of the media (but I repeat myself) have become in brushing off any degree of scrutiny. Accuse others of what you are in fact, guilty of.... Meanwhile, Joe Biden and son....
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:45 AM
Trump says the two acts are unrelated and I don't see any direct evidence of quid pro quo in the transcript. Why so mad?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:48 AM
Yet once again ..... there is NO there there ! I read the entire transcript and it was a cordial call. There was nothing nefarious about it. Absolutely presidential!

I love my nothing burgers with a side of liberal cries!!!

Joe Biden is DONE ! Globalist MSM will try to hide this fact for a while yet.
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 25, 19 10:52 AM
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I had avery belief it would be another exoneration of the president. How/why would THAT make me mad?

Now, the continued corruption of the media and Democrats on full disply...I wouldn't say it makes me "mad" because we've seen it over and over again. Disgusted with the corrupt media and corrupt anti-American Democrat establishment might be a better discription.

By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 25, 19 10:57 AM
To me it sounded like an explicit request for opposition research on a political opponent in a federal election from a foreign state actor.

That's pretty bad in my book, and a crime.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 10:57 AM
@Ditch Bum: I think the Berlitz School has a course in Mobster. Meantime, here's a translation: "Get me something I can f-----g use to whack Biden or I will abandon you to Putin. Got it? OK, good."
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 25, 19 2:09 PM
In trumps case it’s “Quid amateur quo”
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 3:59 PM
Trump has a legal RESPONSIBILITY to ask....and Pelosi either doesn’t know the law or (more probable) she doesn’t CARE about the law.

From last night on Hannity:

SEAN HANNITY (HOST): Let's talk about the law.

GREGG JARRETT: Nancy Pelosi misstated the law today when she said the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence, shall or must hand over the complaint to Congress.

That's completely wrong. The whistle-blower is not a whistle-blower. You can't ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 25, 19 12:28 PM
What bribery? Biden was carrying out the wishes of the Obama administration, what evidence is there that Biden's actions were linked to his son?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 1:13 PM

If you know someone needs something and you say I'll give it to you if you do me a particular favor, that amounts to a quid pro quo.
What's at issue and more to the point is a gross abuse of power, a mafia-style shake down of a desperate ally of the US by the PRESIDENT of the US, the inappropriate involvement of his PERSONAL lawyer AND the Attorney General of the United States. What could be more damning and more worthy of impeachment? trump's entire life and his entire ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 25, 19 12:42 PM
looks like those dirty liberals over at the National Review see Trump Ukraine as quid pro quo.

Have a nice day!!!
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 25, 19 3:37 PM
Our president asking a foreign leader who's country allegedly interfered in our last presidential election to look into it is his job! Asking about obvious corruption between the prior administration and said country is also his job. Gotta love the left, they have their knickers in a knot over investigating corruption in the Democrat Party! Joe Biden and his scum bag son are the ones who are the criminals . The impeachment fiasco will secure President Trump a second term.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 26, 19 6:39 AM
Bigfresh, nice language, it’s fitting for a trump supporter to use vile language.you don’t have a clue about anything do you? I didn’t think so. Keep thinking trump is just some innocent guy going through life being picked on. Keep up the delusional thinking it’s both sad and entertaining.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 7:00 AM
The story states that "some scientists" ..., that means also some scientists do not agree about whether global warming is actually occurring, if it is what the causes are. There is much debate, but as usual the environmentalists have the media believing everything so0me scientists say as fact. The algae blooms, on two ponds bordered by wealthy people with the best fed lawns, are a result of nitrate runoff, not global warming. What makes anyone from the Group for the East End and expert on what ...more
By Walt (292), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 4:23 PM
A vast majority of scientists agree that anthropogenic climate change is happening. Algae blooms do better in warmer weather AND nitrate-rich environments.

I agree with you on one thing though: humanity isn't going to make the necessary changes to keep the planet habitable in the long-term so everyone should start investing in high-elevation real estate!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 5:13 PM
Draw down this! What a crock of horse manure. How does buying local food versus food from outside thye area save food waste? You liberal ifiots think you are going to save the world. I for one will continue my wasteful ways because I know they have no effect. You can't stop mother nature. Do something useful with your time instead of spreading all these nonsense conspiracy theories.
By Walt (292), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 4:28 PM
The article doesn't say buying local food versus food from outside the area saves food waste, but that food waste results in lots of greenhouse emissions (which I'm sure you don't believe in either).

Food is transported using fossil fuels. If food travels less distance, it results in less carbon emissions from fossil fuels. If local food is wasted it results in less greenhouse emissions because it didn't travel as far.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 25, 19 4:59 PM


Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
·
7h
So let’s get this straight:

Hunter Biden makes $50k a MONTH working for a Ukrainian company.

A Ukrainian prosecutor investigates the company.

Then Hunter’s dad, the Vice President, holds up $1 Billion in aid until the prosecutor is fired.

But somehow it’s Trump’s fault.
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 25, 19 8:04 PM
It's about MOTIVE. I saw the video you most likely allude to. Trump was pressuring for dirt. Biden aided in ousting a corrupt prosecutor. Here's a blast from the past, via "The Intercept".

NOTE: Zlochevsky had $23 million in a British bank account that UK officials believed had been laundered. The ousted prosecutor refused to do anything. He was fired, after U.S. pressure.


I Wrote About the Bidens and Ukraine Years Ago. Then the Right-Wing Spin Machine Turned the Story Upside ...more
Sep 25, 19 10:52 PM appended by Mr. Z
A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But It Is Not True. Robert Mackey May 10 2019, 5:52 p.m.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 25, 19 10:52 PM
Diseased, tell him Jordan to get his facts straight. What trump did has zero to do with trump. The trump playing the victim game has started.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 5:26 AM
I have tried to be civil in my prior communications, despite the fact that I disagree with you on virtually everything. That civility ended when you jumped on the impeachment bandwagon.

The Democrats, and the snakes in the media have relentlessly bullied MY PRESIDENT since day one. By proxy, you have been bullying his voters. That is truly disgusting.

In the future, do not refer to me as "Dear Friend" in your correspondence. I am not your dear friend, or your friend at all. I am ...more
Sep 26, 19 1:31 AM appended by joe hampton
Exactly what Hunter Biden was doing in Ukraine for his $50,000 a month? while his father held the second highest office in America.
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 26, 19 1:31 AM
This is all because Hillary lost her rigged election and Nancy is afraid of an ignorant bartender.
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Sep 26, 19 2:24 AM
Joe, tell mark Levine to put me on his list too. Poor trump, poor mark Levine
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 5:27 AM
@ joe: The Bully in Chief being bullied? Levin, "The Great Flip Flop" who was a "Never Trumper"?

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA

[wipes tears]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 26, 19 6:31 AM
@ joe hampton

Incomprehensible.

Opaque stupidity where we were expecting no more than the usual irrationality.



By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 26, 19 1:59 AM
The Trump–Ukraine Transcript Contains Evidence of a Quid Pro Quo
By DAVID FRENCH
September 25, 2019 2:43 PM


I highlight the quid pro quo aspect of the transcript because the other published report — that Trump asked that Ukraine work with Giuliani to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden — is clearly and unequivocally established. The transcript provides proof that Trump made a completely improper request that the president of Ukraine work with Trump’s personal ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 26, 19 6:25 AM
@ Mr. Z

Your cited article lays out clearly the conclusive proof of Trump's criminal conduct in the Ukrainian solicitation as it would be plead by the author (a former litigator) at trial. It's NOT a close case. But, as I indicated, it doesn't make any difference. Solipsistic Republican senators, looking only to their own and their party's survival, will NOT vote to convict (although, according to one of them, 30 WOULD do so if they could vote secretly.*)

The only answer is ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 26, 19 7:33 AM
"Conclusive proof"? The piece is one hedge after the other and one unsubstantiated allegation after the other. The article ends with, "More investigation is necessary," for Pete Sake. Here in lies the problem with Democrats. They are so seething angry for losing the last election, the Bitter Clingers have construed the concept of, "More investigation is necessary" to equate to "conclusive proof." YET AGAIN!

"To be clear, there is nothing inherently wrong with that. Nations strike deals ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 26, 19 8:10 AM
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Now we know why you're not a judge.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Sep 26, 19 9:53 AM
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UNITED STATES ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT

House of Representatives

RESOLUTION
Impeaching Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, for the following crimes and misdemeanors.

1. He hurt our feelings
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 26, 19 7:03 AM
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I LOVE IT!

President Trump dropped a giant water balloon on the heads of the Dems when they got together have one of their collective Triggerings!

Trump 4D Chess move Flawless!
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 26, 19 7:22 AM
Chim chim,”trump 4d chess move?” You kidding? He’s playing tic tak toe on the sidewalk and cheating to win.hes a liar and low moral loser, he’s your guy.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 7:28 AM
Sep 26, 19 1:31 AM appended by joe hampton
Exactly what Hunter Biden was doing in Ukraine for his $50,000 a month? while his father held the second highest office in America. = cheat, sneak and low moral loser,

but he’s your guy.
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 26, 19 11:28 AM
Are the children of presidents not allowed to hold well-paying jobs during their parent's administration? Someone tell the Trump kids.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 26, 19 8:24 PM
27dan, don’t steal my line for trump, he’s the low moral loser
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 8:51 PM
Today is no different than every day since January 1, 2017. Donald Trump is going to be re-elected to a second term during which he will appoint 2-3 more SCOTUS justices.

There is nothing you can do to stop him.

That's it.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 26, 19 9:15 AM
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10 Lessons Kids Can Learn From the Boy Who Cried Wolf

As one of Aesop’s more popular fables, The Boy Who Cried Wolf is such a part of our collective cultural consciousness that the term “cried wolf” has become synonymous with raising a false alarm. While the central theme of this classic cautionary tale is apparent, there are other lessons kids can learn from the Boy. Here are ten of them.

Take Your Responsibilities Seriously – While he doesn’t seem ...more
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 26, 19 9:19 AM
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“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said : ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money’.”—Joe Biden 2018

THIS is obstruction. THIS is bribery. THIS is abuse of power.

Now the Dems want to impeach a president for trying to expose a crime and then elect the person who committed then ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 26, 19 10:33 AM
i thing it is great that president trump was asking questions about biden and his son, who wouldn't want to get to the bottom of that ? besides it was not tied to ant stipulations he asked if they could help rudy with his investigation. where is ag barr on this ?

love our president !
Sep 26, 19 11:47 AM appended by Erin 27 E
i think it's great that president trump was asking questions about biden and his son !
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Sep 26, 19 11:47 AM
Get to the bottom of what? The Obama administration believed the prosecutor was corrupt. The EU agreed.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 26, 19 4:12 PM
Why was the Ukraine investigating the sniffer and his son in the first place?

Why is Uncle joe on the record bragging about getting the prosecutor fired in exchange for help from the USA?

Who is Crowd Strike? {They are the cybersecurity firm that is the sole source of the claim that the Russians hacked the DNC’s emails — which launched the conspiracy theories that tied our country in knots for the past three years.}

Didn't they provide op-research for Hillary ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 26, 19 11:23 AM
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You don't need crowdstrike to prove Hillary and Bill Clinton took $500,00 from the corrupt government of Algeria (which has been recently overthrown by a popular uprising) and $1 million from the Qatari government (which funds Hamas) while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and in direct contradiction to her signed statement before she was appointed to that post that they disclose ALL such donations.
This doesn't excuse Donald Trump and his Gang Who Can't Bribe Straight.
They are both ...more
By dfree (810), hampton bays on Sep 26, 19 1:22 PM
The Ukraine was not investigating Hunter Biden. They were failing to prosecute a member of the board. So now we're trying to equate loan guarantees, and weapons and funding.

The stupid just burns...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 26, 19 1:49 PM
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Climate change is one thing and overdevelopment is another. The tone at the top is to accept overdevelopment. (for example: sleazy developer elected president). Climate change may contribute to harmful algal blooms but the root cause is that we are too cheap to deal with wastewater properly. The new Suffolk plan is a tiny step in the right direction but not enough
By deKooning (106), southampton on Sep 26, 19 11:30 AM
Adam Shiffhead is too insane even to be classified as a nut case !!!

He is well off the scale !!! and does more to gain President Trump votes then even Mad Maxine maybe not as many as AOC does, but as I said it's the only good comedy T.V. left.

As for the Impeachment that sealed the Liberals fate they will lose in a mighty landslide, whichever clown gets the nod will take California and New York but that is about it. Even without the Electoral College Trump wins.

KAG ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Sep 26, 19 11:40 AM
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The professional bureaucrat class is committed to ensuring another private citizen never intrudes upon their self-enrichment scheme again.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Sep 26, 19 11:54 AM
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If you think an athlete's national anthem kneel is a problem but Trump's assaults on the rule of law, the environment & the U.S. Constitution are not, you're entitled to your view, but stop thinking of yourself as patriotic, insightful or in touch with reality.

--Tim Sledge (@Goodbye_Jesus)
By johnj (1020), Westhampton on Sep 26, 19 1:01 PM
There's at least one problem with that analogy. The first item actually occurred and as we've come to learn, was an assault on the flag and America. The second is a matter of opinion, at best. I'd suggest those operating under the opinion the president has assaulted the rule of law, the constitution (no evidence on either)and the environment (also a matter of opinion) should equally be applied to stop thinking themselves as patriotic, insightful or in touch with reality. We just spent two years ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 26, 19 1:27 PM
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It's true that Trump tried to place limits on Mueller's investigation into his campaign and administration.

It's true that the report declined to exonerate Trump and asked congress to decide on obstruction.

It's true that Trump requested the prosecution of a political opponent from a foreign government.

Facts don't care about your feelings. Die mad about it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 26, 19 10:17 PM
The fact is, Trump is still president, he is likely headed toward another term and it's quite possible Republicans will regain the House and keep the Senate. That makes be tingly all over.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 27, 19 11:16 AM
I agree that he has an advantage as the incumbent and will likely win another term.

It's also "quite possible" that Democrats will keep the House and retake the Senate.

It all remains to be seen!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 11:44 AM
I look forward to the show.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 27, 19 12:14 PM
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Po boy, pure bs, that’s not an assault on the flag and America. He was exercising his right as an American citizen. Funny thing is , he was protesting assaults on people by the police, specially people of color. Assault on the flag and America is just pure bs. You are falling for trumps “ look a squirrel “ defense, when all else fails , deflect.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 1:33 PM
The facts don't need deflecting just as Kaepernick's own words speak for themselves. Citizen or not, Kaepernick's ire at its core, is with America and his hatred is based in what has been shown on many cases to be falsehoods perpetrated against minorities by Democrats and their media partisans.

And that's the point. Stop thinking of yourselves as patriotic when you view the country not for all the opportunity it provides and the progress made, but for the victims you think it creates. ...more
Sep 26, 19 3:15 PM appended by Po Boy
This ought to send you chasing your tail.... “We have a presidential candidate who’s deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn’t make sense to me, because if that was any other person, you’d be in prison. So what is this country really standing for?” – Colin Kaepernick
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 26, 19 3:15 PM
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One thousand up votes, Amen
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 26, 19 3:17 PM
Ten thousand down votes, Amen
By Aeshtron (415), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 3:43 PM
Thanks for the lecture, police abuse does exist. In every way, from being pulled over to the criminal justice system. It’s not made up or a figment of my imagination. I don’t need anyone telling me I’m not a patriot or un- American. I was never a Hillary Clinton fan and never will. You have your options I have mine. Facts don’t back up your rhetoric about police abuse of minority’s, if you have some, post them.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 3:45 PM
I'm an illegal : )
By Aeshtron (398), Southampton on Sep 25, 19 2:15 PM

Means YOU DO NOT GET TO VOTE ! Clear enough for you ?
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Sep 26, 19 4:07 PM
Hey Po. It's a fact that people are treated differently by the criminal justice system based on race.

Also, agreeing with someone on one thing doesn't require agreeing with them on everything.

Only Trumpets think that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 26, 19 4:10 PM
"...police abuse does exist."

Just as it does in any profession.

The facts ARE those individuals are dealt within accordance with laws, regulation and policy, are they not?

Are you suggesting human nature and biases are distinct to the United States?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 27, 19 10:56 AM
Po boy, ever get pulled over by a plumber? Maybe a house painter? Ever call a landscaper after a traffic accident? Your false equivalency is showing.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 27, 19 11:09 AM
Did I ever say they weren't held to a higher standard appropriate for the position they've been entrusted with?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 27, 19 11:22 AM
Hey Po. The cumulative effect of the acts of those individuals is disparate treatment of people of different races by the criminal justice system.

I'm not suggesting it's unique to the US, just that it's our problem to solve.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 11:22 AM
So you want to solve the problem of human nature?

But it's not just "the acts of those individuals,"(police I assume) is it? After all, the criminal justice system as a whole is comprised of people like me and you, right? Whether it be judges, lawyers, police or jurors..."disparate treatment" can be seen across all races and genders if you look closer.

And who ever said it was a perfect system, let alone that a perfect system even exists?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 27, 19 12:02 PM
A very smart person once told me to be wary of anyone making broad claims about human nature.

The criminal justice system isn't perfect, but isn't perfection its goal?

That's why lawyers can strike members of the jury pool, ask judges to recuse themselves, get evidence struck when it was obtained illegally, and sue law enforcement agencies who practice disparate treatment of people based on race.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 12:44 PM
Lake Agwam was first deemed polluted in 1902!
By bellringer (2), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 4:52 PM
Lake Agwam was first deemed polluted in 1902!
By bellringer (2), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 4:52 PM
House Republican leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) intends to force House Democrats to take another controversial vote by Friday sometime, forcing them on the record on their intent to forcibly impeach President Donald Trump, all as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi continues to refuse to schedule any actual vote formally opening House impeachment proceedings.Bout time someone besides Trump was fighting back.

Russia Russia Russia

Stormy Stormy Stormy

Kavanaugh Kavanaugh Kavanaugh

Racist ...more
Sep 26, 19 5:50 PM appended by joe hampton
IMPEACHMENT BACKFIRES: TRUMP RAISES $5 MILLION IN 24 HOURS Base rallies as Democrats get desperate
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 26, 19 5:50 PM
Will leftists screech 'impeach!' for fund-raising on Shadenfreude?
Sep 27, 19 6:15 PM appended by loading...
...up to $13 million today (9/27)
By loading... (588), quiogue on Sep 26, 19 6:15 PM
Don't you folks maintain that Russia's expenditures to support Trump were inconsequential because money doesn't matter in elections?

So which is it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 26, 19 6:26 PM
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Joe, you just hit on all of trumps highlights. Takes a special kind of person to support someone with those credentials. I can safely say you and your fellow posters fit it to a “t”. Well done
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 26, 19 7:12 PM
They’ve been trying to censor President Trump from Day One but can’t shut him up Thank God. Trump has brilliantly used Twitter to Tweet out the Truth and destroyed the Propaganda Media doing it. That’s half the battle, now we just have to snap them D-Rats in the Trap. The Left is going to be so sorry they opened up this Ukraine can of worms. Everything points to Hillary, 0bama and Biden and they took the bait.

LET'S RECAP.........

* Obama - gives Iran $1.5 billion ...more
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 27, 19 3:46 AM
"Brother from Pakistan" are automatically suspect? Your prejudice is showing.

Did you make a pilot turn a plane around recently because two random Muslim passengers waves at each other? That's a true story:

Muslim men blame racial profiling for flight cancellation. BBC News, September 20, 2019.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 8:17 AM
Joe, keep pushing the same dumb narrative. Trumps nothing but a bumbling loser, you bring up the same tired talking points.i like the Menendez one, how many in the trump orbit have been indicted and convicted? Your deflection is weak, your argument is weak and trump the bully is weak. You act like he’s just a peaceful innocent guy, good luck. Low moral loser trump strikes again.the old “ look a squirrel “ defense.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 27, 19 5:26 AM
@ Po Boy

A L--O--N--G lie by omission.

First you omit the text following the bit you quote ("To be clear, there is nothing inherently wrong with that. Nations strike deals all the time."), excising the author's specification of the ADDITIONAL acts by Trump that MADE his solicitation criminal. You then omit all the author's further proofs of criminality, and finish by falsifying the end on the article.*

Being thrice a lie, did you get three times the charge you usually ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 27, 19 7:40 AM
Yeah, all that deflection and unrelated mumbo jumbo aside, didn't the author start the second to last paragraph with, "More investigation is necessary?"

How is that tantamount to the whopper of "conclusive proof" you claim?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 27, 19 11:57 AM
Our resident leftists are seemingly still blind to the truth , perhaps blinded from the Holy Light emanating from their sainted Barak Hussein Obama. That Cult of Personality was truly damaging.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 27, 19 8:09 AM
What do you think is "the truth" BigFresh?

I'm on the edge of my seat at full attention.

Will it be a racist rant about Muslims?

Will it be more crying about "unfair treatment" of Trump? Go on!

By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 8:21 AM
Our alt leftists here are unable to admit that the Democrat Party and their propaganda wing , the MSM, have been trying to undo the last presidential election . Unhinged sycophants all.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 27, 19 9:14 AM
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Bigfresh, no one cares about the last election. It’s over and done. It’s the president and his unhinged ways every one is against.” Build the wall, who’s gonna pay for it”? That’s the first con, followed by many more. How many indictments and convictions associated with the president? How many “acting” heads of departments are there? Trumps a clown, and you call people on the left sycophants. Coming from you the person of zero facts , that’s ...more
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 27, 19 9:21 AM
BigFresh, what do you think sycophant means?

There's broad disagreement among democrats, that's why it took this long to get Pelosi onboard.

Is there equal disagreement among republicans?

So who are the real sycophants?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 9:29 AM
Oh bigfresh, project much?

By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 27, 19 9:49 AM
A new study from the University of Salzburg has shown 72 per cent of Austrians have openly expressed that Islam is simply not compatible with the Western world. The study, which involved 1,200 participants, found that Austrians were very concerned about the effect of Islam on their country, and want them out.Half of those who took part in the study said that they would be fine with restricting Muslims’ ability to practise their faith and nearly as many said that mosques should not be tolerated ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 27, 19 11:54 AM
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Why do should we care what Austria thinks? What happened to America first?

Next you'll suggest re-education camps like is happening in China. Why do you hate America?

By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 11:58 AM
Interesting 27Dan. Loyalty to religion above all else smacks in the face of America first on several levels. Anyone who doesn't see that clearly doesn't put their country anywhere near first. Making comparison to other countries is only valid when it's in regard to gun confiscation.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 27, 19 12:12 PM
Statistically, are 1,200 participants in a country the size of Austria valid? Seems weak.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 27, 19 12:24 PM
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Hey Po, do you have similar complaints about politicians who call themselves Christians first and Americans second?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 12:48 PM
Pretty brave of the Obamas to buy that doomed house by the sea !!!!!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
By Biba (564), East Hampton on Sep 27, 19 8:53 AM
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What's brave about being able to afford flood insurance?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 9:00 AM
What's brave about being able to afford flood insurance is that the maximum amount available through NFIP is $250,000 for the structure. It's very difficult to purchase additional flood insurance coverage at any cost. $250,000 isn't going to cover rebuilding many of the houses here on the South Fork.
By Aeshtron (415), Southampton on Sep 27, 19 10:15 AM
Yeah, if their house floods I have an inkling the Obamas will be just fine.

Climate change is a poor people problem.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 11:46 AM
The last thing the lying democrats expected to happen was Trump releasing the full transcript of his phone call with the president of Ukraine. It totally blew up their latest impeachment attempt, checkmate. I suspect that a very clever plan is at play here The Democrats are playing into it thinking they're being clever, but once the trap snaps shut on that donkey's neck, not a single one of those corrupt, dirt bags will escape. Trump's patience & timing are superb! Would hate to play poker with ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 27, 19 11:50 AM
I'm not surprised he released the transcript. I am surprised he tried to cover it up, though.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 27, 19 11:53 AM
Two Truths and a Lie:
Our current President is an honest and honorable man.
I am not a freeholder in the town of Southampton.
The US foreign-born population is currently about 44.5 million.
By Aeshtron (415), Southampton on Sep 27, 19 1:21 PM
Trust mother nature. She and God got this.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Sep 28, 19 6:40 AM
A storm descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe.

"Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast."

"No," says the preacher. "I have faith in the Lord. He will save me."

Still the waters rise. Now the preacher is up on the balcony, wringing his hands in supplication, when another ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 7:05 AM
Flashback: Obama Admin Asked Ukraine to Investigate Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort.

Former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy noted at National Review on Thursday that then-President Barack Obama’s administration asked Ukraine to investigate Donald Trump’s campaign manager, Paul Manafort, in 2016.

McCarthy notes the double standard — that Democrats want to impeach Trump for doing what Obama did — and which they have been telling the world for years ...more
Sep 28, 19 8:12 AM appended by They call me
Now the rest of the story, Obama was legally entitled to contact the Ukraine about Manafort. - And Trump is legally entitled to contact the Ukraine about the Bidens. There is an existing treaty between the USA and the Ukraine regarding cooperation for the prosecution of crimes. The treaty was passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton. Seems the Democrats say it is only legal for them to use it !!!
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 28, 19 8:12 AM
Obama wasn't running against Trump, so he didn't solicit a thing of value from a foreign national in a federal election.

Trump is running against Biden, so he did solicit a thing of value from a foreign national in a federal election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 8:17 AM
Running for office makes u immune from investigation by the country's highest law enforcement officer?
By Taz (705), East Quogue on Sep 28, 19 9:48 AM
No, the crime is soliciting opposition research from a foreign national about a political opponent in a federal election.

Trump's FBI and DOJ can investigate whatever he wants them to. It's the request to a foreign national that makes it a crime.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 9:56 AM
Trump seems to think so
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 9:56 AM
All hail the Sainted Barak.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 28, 19 8:30 AM
Neither Obama nor Trump are above the law, but I think only one of them actually knows the law.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 8:32 AM
Here’s two points. Remember trump on Air Force 1 saying he didn’t know anything about the stormy Daniels affair, he said ask my lawyer. Michael Cohen. What ever happened to him? Next his famous “build the wall” , who’s paying for it? 2 lies , many more to add if needed. Trump is a low moral loser
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 9:39 AM
"This is my last election,” Obama said. “After my election, I have more flexibility."

"I will transmit this information to Vladimir," said Medvedev.
By loading... (588), quiogue on Sep 28, 19 8:46 AM
What law did that break? It sounds and looks bad, but as I said above Obama knew the law. Trump apparently does not.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 8:53 AM
Exactly correct Fore1, That is exactly word for word what Ken Starr ( head investigator of Bill Clinton during his Impeachment proceedings) . just said on Neil Cavuto, "The President coming right out and asking the President of the Ukraine was bad optics and not a good look but the President Trump broke no laws."

Yes, It is very true that half the country would like answers to many of the things that where done by Vice President Biden and others during the Obama administration, but those ...more
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 28, 19 10:31 AM
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Just as oversight of the president, and the question of whether his solicitation of opposition research regarding a political opponent in a federal election from a foreign government broke federal law, is within the purview of Congress.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 10:36 AM
Our president Trump isn’t perfect, but he’s the best we’ve ever had. Besides I've never been into perfection. What we have is a man who made promises, and KEPT promises under the HARSHEST circumstances has followed through far better then anyone including me could expect. A little History of Rome look this name up and you have Trump. Publius Horatius Cocles

President Trump takes two steps forward and the MSM, RINO'S, LibNazi's and the Elite through the Judicial system ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 28, 19 10:38 AM
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Yes, please primary the established Republicans in congress, I'd love to see it.

By the way, Trump may be a street fighter, but street fights are illegal.

Trump doesn't know the law, and he's tripping himself up.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 11:15 AM
PSA. Some advice, all you right wing posters. All this spinning is going get you dizzy. Please sit down when writing your latest spin.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 9:34 AM
No spin from our side! Best president ever. A man of steel. Too many cockroaches in the swamp. Trump all the way. MAGA!

We send the traitors to hell by the ballot, or by the constitution we WILL take America back and keep our REPUBLIC!!!

Our founding Fathers demanded that from us, and gave us the means to do it.

I belive all Military from Capt on down will NOT fight to continue the Government in the direction it is going.

I know when I served we used to have ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 28, 19 10:44 AM
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@ 27dan

A delusional, incendiary harangue capped by a pledge to commit treason if you don't get your way.

Behold the true believer.
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 28, 19 11:15 AM
Dan hates America and will engage in criminal violent acts if he doesn't get his way at the polls.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 11:20 AM
So Mr. Toughboy Dan is gonna' go "over the fence" with his big boy toy and fight to protect the skeeviest, most lawbreaking, most anti-democratic, most traitorous POS to ever sully the oval office? American ideals, the Shining City on a Hill, the Rule of Law? All meaningless to djt and Mr. Dan. Appalling and sad.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 28, 19 11:22 AM
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This comment should be redlined and you’re a disgrace
By Biba (564), East Hampton on Sep 28, 19 12:52 PM
I think promoting violent criminal acts in response to an election loss is not only disgraceful but un-American.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 12:59 PM
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Seems you all missed the "hypothetical conversation" part of Dans comment
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Sep 28, 19 2:26 PM
Dan considers his political opponents traitors and has vowed to commit violence to prevent them from carrying out policies he disagrees with.

Threatening to commit violence because you don't get your way at the voting booth, even in the hypothetical, is repugnant and un-American.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 2:37 PM
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Thank G-D for safe and legal abortion : )
By Aeshtron (415), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 11:07 AM
Trump as a street fighter is the biggest joke ever. Nothing but a loud mouthed bully who used his money as power his whole life. Now he has something called oversight, that’s not working out so well. Doesn’t know how the government operates, wasn’t interested in learning.said he was smarter then everyone, good luck with that.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 11:23 AM
The comments above by some of our most unhinged alt leftists are truly delusional, carry on comrades , carry on.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 28, 19 12:15 PM
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Hitting raw nerves, are we?
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 28, 19 1:16 PM
300+ former national security officials condemn Trump-Ukraine actions
Rashaan Ayesh Sep 27, 2019


More than 300 former national security officials have signed a letter supporting the impeachment inquiry into President Trump on allegations he pressured Ukraine.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 28, 19 8:37 PM


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Can you imagine if these Do Nothing Democrat Savages, people like Nadler, Schiff, AOC Plus 3, and many more, had a Republican Party who would have done to Obama what the Do Nothings are doing to me. Oh well, maybe next time!

MAGA!
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 28, 19 12:40 PM
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HIGH CRIMES, Donnie Small Hands, HIGH CRIMES. The ones you and your cabal have been busy covering up.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 28, 19 1:13 PM
Diseased, remember that tic toc thing you used to do, like the axe was gonna fall any second. You were right, it’s falling. You should give up predicting politics, you are terrible at it.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 1:00 PM
This morning Elizabeth Warren is on TV screaming that Kavanaugh accuser and nut Christine Blasey Fords one-year anniversary should be honored by declaring that the Supreme Court justice “should still be impeached.” Wow Loony bin time ?

“I still believe Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. And like the man who appointed him, Brett Kavanaugh should still be impeached,” Warren said, lol

These Alt left rats are introducing the Marxist legal system, punish first, investigate ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Sep 28, 19 2:24 PM
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This "whistle blower" is as credible as drunk 'Dr." Chrissy.......

Well there it is... not only are our liberal friends liars, cheats, thieves, and traitors. They are pure debased trash as well!

I’m astounded any self respecting American vote for such a low standard of evidence.

Regardless, we are keeping track of the Democratic Party’s (along with their Media Propaganda Ministry’s) salacious seditious slanderous sliming smearing attacks upon our liberties, ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Sep 28, 19 2:32 PM
Drop the victim mentality. It's not Democrats' fault that Trump solicited opposition research on a political opponent in a federal election from a foreign national.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 3:27 PM
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Seems you missed this the first time around... Ken Star: "The President coming right out and asking the President of the Ukraine was bad optics and not a good look but President Trump broke no laws."

TCM : Trump is legally entitled to contact the Ukraine about the Bidens. There is an existing treaty between the USA and the Ukraine regarding cooperation for the prosecution of crimes. The treaty was passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton.
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 28, 19 4:39 PM
No, I saw Ken Starr's opinion, I'm just left wondering what element of the crime he (or you) thinks isn't met:

1. Soliciting
2. A thing of value
3. From a foreign national
4. In connection with a US election
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 4:46 PM
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300+ former national security officials condemn Trump-Ukraine actions
Rashaan Ayesh Sep 27, 2019


More than 300 former national security officials have signed a letter supporting the impeachment inquiry into President Trump on allegations he pressured Ukraine.

"President Trump appears to have leveraged the authority and the resources of the highest office in the land to invite additional foreign interference into our democratic processes. That would constitute an unconscionable ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 28, 19 8:35 PM
So far in this thread we have 27dan vowing to take up arms against our republic if things don't go his way, Ditch Bum exonerating 27dan's treason as "hypothetical", and the rest of the true believer menagerie howling dementedly about the disloyalty of the left when it is only they themselves who have threatened armed revolt.

Every time the Lunatic-in-Chief's stupidity threatens self-annihilation, the precarious balance of true believers' minds herein is so disturbed that they erupt as ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 28, 19 5:45 PM
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Nobody is suggesting we take up arms against anyone. But we do have a second amendment for a reason. The second amendment was designed to allow citizens to protect themselves from both internal and external threats. That means the right to protect there home and there property, but mainly to protect themselves from a tyrannical government. They did this because they had already fled a tyrannical government and designed the new system to protect their rights under this Constitution. If the there ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Sep 28, 19 6:07 PM
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Conspiracy
: the act of conspiring together
They were accused of conspiracy to commit murder.
2a : an agreement among conspirators
uncovered a conspiracy against the government
b : a group of conspirators
a conspiracy made up of disgruntled aristocrats
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 6:14 PM
UD supports Dan's vow to commit political violence if he loses at the voting booth.

They both hate America and the peaceful transfer of power that underpins the union.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 6:48 PM
i not only trust the conservative men on this board but a thank god for there measured oversight that keeps a watch on the radicals among us. our president was duly elected ! if you don't like that then try to vote him out, but please stop attempting a coup against an active commander and chief. the democrats and the media harassment has reached the point of becoming obsessed with destroying this president! just look at the tds in the people you side with, adam schiff, maxine waters, alexandria ...more
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Sep 28, 19 6:53 PM
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Measured oversight? I never implied you don’t know what’s going on. Just said I wouldn’t trust them with a handful of rocks, pretty simple. When “measured oversight “ is thinking about overthrowing the govt, you’ve crossed the line between normal and extreme radicalism.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 6:58 PM
Hi Erin, it's not Democrats' fault that Trump doesn't know the law. Congress is charged with oversight and that's what they're doing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 7:02 PM
No, someone “hypothetically “ calling to overthrow the govt. is normal talk.2nd amendment got nothing to do with it. I’m not sure I’d trust you or 27dan with a handful of rocks.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 6:11 PM
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no one hear is talking about overthrowing a government accept for you and your cohorts. president trump is being set up again by the same desperate people, playing the only card they have left. mr. barr is about to blow the lid off their corruption. thats why they said they have to do it fast. this way they will claim it's all political and retaliation.

the people are not stupid despite what the media is trying to hide from them, this is nothing but russia hoax 2.0. they're accusing our ...more
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Sep 28, 19 7:02 PM
Attention, please. Paging an English teacher. Is there an English teacher in the house? We have an emergency. Is there an English teacher in the house?
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 28, 19 8:44 PM
How is Trump being set up? Did someone hold a gun to his head and make him solicit opposition research about a political opponent from a foreign national in connection with an election?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 10:44 PM
From 27dan,”I belive all Military from Capt on down will NOT fight to continue the Government in the direction it is going.

I know when I served we used to have hypothetical conversation concerning a U.S. Civil War and for the most part my unit would have grabbed ALL of our gear and go over the fence to fight for the America we were given, not the one being forced on us.

And we would have NO RULES OF ENGAGEMENT beyond taking the Country back!”
Try to explain ...more
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 7:12 PM
Well, i guess it depends on your definition of " direction it is going"

If Dan meant a congress gone wild drawing articles of impeachment based on hypocritical and lacking evidence of a crime?

If it meant an on going campaign, carried out by a cabal of high ranking sore losers attempting a soft coup on a legally elected president of the United States of America?

If it meant the slandering of the peoples president with the help of a complicit media every hour of every ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 28, 19 7:56 PM
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300+ former national security officials condemn Trump-Ukraine actions
Rashaan Ayesh Sep 27, 2019

"President Trump appears to have leveraged the authority and the resources of the highest office in the land to invite additional foreign interference into our democratic processes. That would constitute an unconscionable abuse of power. It also would represent an effort to subordinate America's national interests — and those of our closes allies and partners — to the President's ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 28, 19 8:38 PM
TCM: soliciting opposition research about a political opponent from a foreign national in connection with an election is a CRIME.

It's not Democrats' fault that Trump doesn't know the law. Congress is charged with oversight of the executive and that's what they're doing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 10:21 PM
I’m bitter? Read your post, you don’t sound like a barrel laughs. It will be ok chim chim.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 28, 19 8:12 PM
You can hear Levin spoon feeding them...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 28, 19 8:23 PM
This is the left trying to get rid of Trump AND Biden. Read Kimberly Strassel’s latest article on the topic. Makes perfect sense.
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 28, 19 11:27 PM
Did "the left" make Trump solicit opposition research on Biden from the Ukrainian government?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 28, 19 11:44 PM
@ They call me

You are correct, They call me, an explanation is unnecessary.

You and 27dan and Ditch Bum have all made it perfectly clear that you will turn traitor if the government is "bad".

The same "reasoning" that persuaded Benedict Arnold.

In support of your treachery, Undocumented Democrat reasserts the ludicrous, oft disproved belief that the 2nd amendment was created to ENABLE treason.

God, I hope that none of you lot actually HAVE guns. ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 29, 19 7:48 AM
Nice try highhat

We will not turn on anything, but will up hold the Constitution of the United States by any means necessary !

In short the 2nd amendment was created to protect the first !
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 29, 19 2:05 PM
Threatening political violence because in case you lose at the ballot box is repugnant and un-American. Why do you hate America?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 2:21 PM
He said we will hold up the constitution by any means necessary. You dont seem to like that ? Why do you hate America?
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 29, 19 2:50 PM
TCM said he will engage in violence if he doesn't like the result of the democratic process. My political prerogatives do not supersede the democratic process. Thinking your beliefs are more important than anyone else's is anti-American.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 2:56 PM
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@ They call me

Quote:

"In short the 2nd amendment was created to protect the first !"
--------------------------

Brainless, true believer cant. (I'd ask you to provide references to support this idiotic assertion but I know you lot don't DO that.)

Only an ignorant true believer could think that the Founding Fathers, having fought a war for seven years to CREATE the United States, would then pass a law intended to enable people like you to destroy it.

When ...more
Sep 30, 19 7:44 AM appended by highhatsize
- - - And you, 27dan (infra). You and They call me can share the same drop. (Not that I believer for a moment that you Sunshine Soldiers will ever actually DO anything that endangers your skin.)
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 30, 19 7:44 AM
"America will NEVER be a socialist country" ...Donald Trump

Not as long as I and millions of other vets have air in our lungs !

I still HONOR my oath !! I do not plan to sit idly by while these b *stards take away our Constitution, Liberty, and Freedom!

Most of us veterans still remember our military training and are still prepared to answer the call to defend America.

TRUMP 2020!
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 30, 19 10:35 AM
Apparently Dan has never heard of SOCIAL security.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 12:00 PM
The problems in this country started with FDR
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 1, 19 12:13 AM
You're welcome to your opinion, but you may not want to let seniors know how you feel about their social security.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 12:18 AM
People whose ideas I disagree with, and who are not the same race and religion as I am are savages!
By Aeshtron (415), Southampton on Sep 29, 19 10:32 AM
L' shanah tovah tikatevu
By Aeshtron (415), Southampton on Sep 29, 19 10:41 AM
This is what we have the Consitution for
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 29, 19 1:39 PM
"What crime was violated? It’s not illegal. The question is whether Biden did something illegal. The president didn’t do anything illegal. You know how I know? Because Nancy Pelosi’s been on every tv show and she can’t cite one section of the United States code where it’s illegal. My question is, why is Joe Biden above the law? Why is his son above the law? Where is Hunter Biden today? Where is the media? Don’t they want to know? Don’t they want to know ...more
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 29, 19 1:55 PM
Fox & Friends Sunday [8AM] 9/29/19 |

Good for you, Levin! Say it loud! And not just about Biden, either. What about Obama asking them to investigate Manafort? Somehow that was okay?
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 29, 19 2:02 PM
Did you folks watch Chris Wallace dress down Stephen Miller on Fox News Sunday? That was my highlight.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 2:19 PM
------- Meet The fake Press. ..... Schiff says the ID of whistleblower will be kept SECRET !

How CONvienient !

On this weekend’s broadcast of “Fox News Sunday,” White House advisor Stephen Miller said the “whistleblower” complaint about President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s dealings “drips with condemnation, condescension and contempt for the president.”

Miller said, “I think it’s ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Sep 29, 19 2:20 PM
I did and did not glean the same impressions you did. I encourage everyone to view these interview for themselves!
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Sep 29, 19 2:22 PM
Stephen Miller has worked in government for nearly three years so he knows better than the lifetime public servant, one-time navy seal, and current acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire?

False.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 2:26 PM
Yes, PLEASE watch Stephen Miller try to worm his way out of answering Chris Wallace's questions AND get called on it every single time.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 2:28 PM
You obviously were not paying attention. Steve Miller made Wallace look like a Democrat hack who did not even know that Trump had discussed the Biden situation with one of his own cohorts on national tv...Wallace actually sounded stupid. Like he knew nothing. Miller schooled him big time.
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Sep 29, 19 2:33 PM
Chris Wallace: Why did Trump use Giuliani and two private attorneys instead of America's National Security apparatus to investigate Biden's contacts with Ukraine?

Stephen Miller: Uhhh...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 2:41 PM
chris wallace is such a weasel and belongs on msnbc
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Sep 29, 19 2:57 PM
Lol, is it Chris Wallace's fault that Stephen Miller was wholly unprepared to answer his questions?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 3:03 PM
Wowser.

Who'd a thunk the GOP would play the victim card...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 30, 19 6:25 AM
Only the best liars. Birds of a feather...

Study Proves The FCC's Core Justification for Killing Net Neutrality Was False
The biggest study yet finds Ajit Pai’s repeated claims that net neutrality hurt broadband investment have never been true.

By Karl Bode
Sep 27 2019, 9:25am

But a new study from George Washington University indicates that Pai’s claims were patently false. The study took a closer look at the earnings reports and SEC filings of 8,577 ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 29, 19 2:27 PM
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My understanding is there isn’t a statute in place to protect him, only a CIA rule for handling whistleblower cases. A rule that was conveniently changed to cover this case days before the release of the memo. Proof that the CIA is simply spying on, and lying about, President Trump. This so-called "whistleblower" is nothing more than a Deep State political hack. It is patently obvious that this is yet another orchestrated cooperative effort to undermine our president in any way that they can. ...more
Sep 29, 19 2:31 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
No other person on earth would have been able to withstand the total onslaught against him by the Deep State along with the Democrat Party and Mainstream Media and still be alive and well like President Trump has done. Any other person would have already been ousted. Thank God for President Trump.
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Sep 29, 19 2:31 PM
You're lying. No rules were changed. First-hand evidence was never necessary to file a whistle-blower complaint. You want to silence whistle-blowers because you hate America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 2:43 PM
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The internal properties of the newly revised “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form, which the intelligence community inspector general (ICIG) requires to be submitted under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA), show that the document was uploaded on September 24, 2019, at 4:25 p.m., just days before the anti-Trump complaint was declassified and released to the public. The markings on the document state that it was revised in August 2019, but no specific date ...more
By loading... (588), quiogue on Sep 30, 19 7:06 AM
Yes, and?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 7:22 AM
President Trump did nothing wrong except defeat Crooked Hillary, for that he must be impeached. Trump is a Lion among a pack of Jackals, and only his supporters can strengthen his resolve. VOTE VOTE VOTE, and contribute to he Campaign. TRUMP 2020!

Nancy Pelosi: ‘Doesn’t Matter’ if Impeachment Cost Democrats the House

The left does not care about obligations !

They wish to nullify the 2016, election regain power, tax us to death, destroy healthcare, confiscate ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 29, 19 2:45 PM
Trump DID do something wrong by soliciting opposition research about a political opponent from a foreign national in connection with a US election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 3:09 PM
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"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you."

~ Yoda
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 29, 19 7:36 PM
The fact that Democrats are more angry at the president for wanting to look at Joe Biden's corruption than they are at Joe Biden's corruption tells you all you need to know.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 30, 19 12:45 PM
Pointing out that Trump broke the law by requesting dirt on Biden from the Ukrainian president doesn't require being angry. You sound like you're projecting.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 12:51 PM
Pointing out your opinion....you mean.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 10:32 AM
It's a fact that Trump requested dirt on Biden from the Ukrainian president.

If you think asking for a "favor" isn't a request then you're beyond help.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 10:36 AM
It's a fact, that not what was requested.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 11:01 AM
It's a fact that Trump requested an investigation. That's called opposition research.

You can run away from it all you want but everyone's seen the transcript: Trump requested a thing of value from a foreign national in connection with an election.

That's a crime.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 11:06 AM
No. It's called an investigation into the origins of the investigation that showed no collusion.

The president requested no such thing. That's the Democrat pipe dream...the illusion.

That's disgusting.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:36 PM
Lol, more specifically Trump wanted the Ukrainian president to investigate whether Joe Biden stopped a prosecution of his son. That's called requesting an investigation into a political opponent, aka in connection with an election, from a foreign national.

Nobody is "dreaming" of a president who flouts the law, get over yourself. Try to remember that you're an American first and Republican second.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:47 PM
And isn't investigation into possible corruption by Joe Biden - who happened to be the former administration's ambassador for corruption to the Ukraine - in the interest of the United States?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:24 PM
Sure, through proper means. The president requesting dirt on a political rival from a foreign national is not a proper means.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:51 PM
it seem like pelosi is admitting that defeat is all but inevitable for the democrats in 2020

i love our president more and more everyday and just donated to his campaign again dan !

go trump 2020
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Sep 29, 19 2:55 PM
The problem with narcissistic personalities is that even when they are committing malfeasant acts, the refuse to believe they are doing so.

Biden never stopped any prosecution. Lutsenko has unequivocally and repeatedly stated there is no reason to investigate either Biden. What Trump has done by pressuring Ukraine to launch spurious investigations to harm a political rival is a gross abuse of Presidential powers, and the gross nepotism Trump has engaged in is despicable on a Teapot Dome ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 29, 19 10:30 PM
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Lindsey Graham: Today on Face The Nation - Whistleblower Complaint ‘A Political Setup’— ‘Salem Witch Trials Have More Due Process Than This’

BRENNAN: You have no problem with any of this?

GRAHAM: I have zero problems with this phone call

BRENNAN: Even with that sequencing?

GRAHAM: I just told you I have zero problems with this phone call. There is no quid pro quo here but I do have a problem with Nancy Pelosi. If you believe that ...more
By local 84 (349), riverhead on Sep 29, 19 3:58 PM
Is it malarkey that Trump requested dirt from a foreign government about a political opponent in connection with a US election?

I'd vote for Bernie but he's not my first choice. Medicare for all is too much government. I prefer a public option that competes with private industry rather than a mandate that eliminates the insurance companies altogether.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 29, 19 4:15 PM
Lindsey Graham Rests Entire Trump Defense on Word He Doesn’t Understand
By Jonathan Chait

In addition to all that evidence, there is plenty of additional supporting evidence, some of which was reported by a CIA agent whistle-blower. The agent followed protocol by reporting their findings to the Intelligence Community Inspector General, who found them to be serious and credible. The journalist interviewing Graham, Margaret Brennan, noted that many allegations in the whistle-blower ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 29, 19 8:03 PM
Only the best liars. Birds of a feather...

Study Proves The FCC's Core Justification for Killing Net Neutrality Was False
The biggest study yet finds Ajit Pai’s repeated claims that net neutrality hurt broadband investment have never been true.

By Karl Bode
Sep 27 2019, 9:25am

But a new study from George Washington University indicates that Pai’s claims were patently false. The study took a closer look at the earnings reports and SEC filings of 8,577 ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 29, 19 7:07 PM
If I wake up and hear that Adam Schiff got run over by a Mack truck....I wouldn’t shed one tear.
He’s a triggered, lefty loon. Just look at his eyes next time you watch him speak at a hearing. It’s all in the eyes. He reeks of insanity:


Levin: ‘Adam Schiff knows exactly who this whistleblower is’
Carmel Kookogey · September 27, 2019
Adam Schiff leaves hearing on whistleblower complaint
Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call | Getty Images
Thursday ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 30, 19 12:24 AM
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I also don't shed tears when strangers die, but I don't brag about it either...what a weird thing to be proud of.

Anyway, it's not Schiff's fault that Trump asked the Ukrainian president for dirt on Biden. He stepped on that rake all by himself.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 12:34 AM
Don’t blame the messenger.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 5:12 AM
He does make the party look bad, Brazile a lire and Wasserman Schultz he is untruthful if not insane.
By local 84 (349), riverhead on Sep 30, 19 8:28 AM
So, who here knows where the Crowdstrike server is?
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 30, 19 6:50 AM
The presidential campaign of former Vice President Joe Biden sent a letter to every major television network, demanding that they keep former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani off the air. It's the Dems who are the ones really terrified about what's being exposed. This proves it.Their corruption is being exposed and they want it shut down.

Imagine if President Trump demanded that one of perv Biden's staff was .........

to be censored from ALL media................

just ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 30, 19 8:34 AM
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Um wait just a minute here ....

Is Biden trying to get ANOTHER Prosecutor fired?
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Sep 30, 19 8:43 AM
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Giuliani is not a prosecutor. He's not even a government employee. Even Republicans want him to shut up and stay off TV.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 11:19 AM
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That is the exact same thing Joe Biden told Ukraine about the prosecutor looking into his son! Yes he is trying to silence another prosecutor. He knows enough to stay on the right side of anything legally. Biden on the other hand finished at the bottom of his Law class and is on video bragging of his crime, and as if it isn't bad enough that the Democrats lie and are openly treasonous communists now, we saw Adam SchiffForBrains read a completely made up 'transcript' into the official Congressional ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Sep 30, 19 8:48 AM
Thanks for admitting Biden didn't do anything illegal.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 11:22 AM
Shokin allowed the Burisma investigation to languish and remain idle for a YEAR. The incompetence or intentional lack of enforcement forced the UK to release 23 million dollars which was believed to have been laundered. It was immediately transferred to Cyprus.

Nope, nothing to see there...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 30, 19 5:43 PM
This is just the latest Witch Hunt ...

A "whistle blower" ? ya right, just another bureaucrat that hated the president... files a clam that says the President did something wrong on call, this guy was not even on the call.... "hear say at best" So the White house does something thats never been done before, they actually release the transcript and we see that there is nothing there!... But the Democrats say we don't care we are going to move toward impeachment ? What ? They don't care ...more
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Sep 30, 19 9:26 AM
And "the right" plays the victim card.

Boo, hoo, hoo...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 30, 19 5:27 PM
The former vice presidents son was being paid by Ukraine despite not having any expertise in the energy sector while Joe Biden was the “point-person” on former President Obama’s administration in dealing with Ukraine.

“The key question here that nobody seems to want to ask in the media is: What was he being paid for? if he wasn’t being paid for his expertise. What was he being paid for? And what were the Ukrainians expecting to get in return?

The Trials ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Sep 30, 19 10:28 AM
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I used to think that a "dancing chicken" was funny. How sad it was to learn that his "dancing" was caused by a hidden hotplate burning his feet.

What fun it is to enjoy that spectacle anew with true believers!
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Sep 30, 19 10:37 AM
Fact: Joe Biden was steering billions of dollars of Western money to Ukraine for access and influence.

Next: China
By loading... (588), quiogue on Sep 30, 19 10:41 AM
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The ruling class made billions selling out America to China. The only people globalism benefited was the DC elites & China. Middle class became poorer. China built their country with America’s money. China has trains that go 300 m/h while our infrastructure was left to crumble. Washington elites sell out America to the highest bidder personally enriching themselves. In comes Trump who has his own money & can’t be bought so he implements policies that benefit the American people. The ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 30, 19 10:53 AM
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Fact: Trump requested dirt on Biden, his political opponent, from the Ukrainian president.

I wonder why none of you folks want to talk about that?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 11:26 AM
Fact: That's not a fact.
Sep 30, 19 12:00 PM appended by Po Boy
The president did no such thing.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 30, 19 12:00 PM
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Which part isn't true, Po? Let's talk about it!

Trump requested ("solicitation") an investigation ("thing of value") from the Ukrainian president ("a foreign national") about Biden, his political opponent ("in connection with an election").
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 12:09 PM
Does it matter which part? "Fact: That's not a fact." is self explanatory, is it not?

The deeper you want to go, the more relevant it becomes.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 30, 19 12:41 PM
Lol, Po is unwilling to discuss which element of the crime he thinks isn't met? Why am I not surprised?

Anyway, it's clear that Trump requested dirt on Biden from the Ukrainian president. Your inability to address it directly only bolsters my point.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 12:48 PM
You went awry at "Trump requested." It only gets more flawed from there.

By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 30, 19 12:54 PM
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If you think asking the Ukrainian president for a "favor" isn't a request you're beyond help.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 12:58 PM
And yet, the Prevaricator in Chief was repeatedly told by Tom Bossert that the "white whale" he is chasing has been thoroughly debunked. The Burisma "investigation" sat idle for a year, and forced the UK to release 23 million dollars which was immediately transferred to Cyprus. Point of note to the dopey Trump True Believers. You've been hoodwinked by a con man. Have a nice day.

Read: Ukraine and the Bidens are a horse**** conspiracy theory on the part of the "right wing", and the head ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 30, 19 5:24 PM
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Two things come out of the interview with Bossert.

First, he doesn't think it's been proven that the president was abusing his power.

Second, he seems oddly uncomfortable with the notion of delving back into questions surrounding Crowdstrike when, "The United States government reached its conclusion on attributing to Russia the DNC hack in 2016 before it even communicated it to the FBI, long before the FBI ever knocked on the door at the DNC," he stressed. "So a server inside ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 9:41 AM
One can only wonder why Po is unwilling to engage with the question of which elements of the crime were and weren't met.

Is asking for a "favor" a request or isn't it, Po?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 10:32 AM
Feeding the Democrat (de) illusion does nothing more than give it the legitimacy they desperately seek.

The answer as presented, is, no, because the underlying context is not a fact.

By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 12:30 PM
Well do me a "favor" and don't hurt yourself while doing tho and mental gymnastics.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 12:33 PM
Well do me a "favor" and don't hurt yourself while doing those mental gymnastics.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 12:34 PM
Don't you mean, "us?"

Don't do "us" a favor?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 12:44 PM
Sure, do us a favor and don't hurt yourself while doing those mental gymnastics.

Just as much a request as the former.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 12:47 PM
And by "us" I mean "our country."
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 2:23 PM
Just as much a request as the former.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 2:27 PM
And by "us" the president said, "us"..."our country."
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:24 PM
And it's still just as much a request as the former.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:28 PM
Who is "us?" Don't like the ansrwer, huh?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:34 PM
"US" ostensibly refers to the U.S., and "do us a favor" is still a request.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:53 PM
So, "us" isn't on behalf or in the self interest of the president, but what the country experienced in regard to the 2016 election.

By golly, I think we're getting somewhere.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:18 PM
Two things can be true at once and only one of them is necessary for it to be a crime.

Show me the "public interest" exception, Po? Where is it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:24 PM
"Us"..... "our country"

Read the transcript.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:50 PM
Oh, you think it's unquestionable that it was in the public interest because Trump SAID it was? Great! Have at it!

Even if true, there's no "public interest" exception to the law.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:53 PM
Trumpeteer derangement syndrome is on display. This is entertaining.eventually they will run out of “whataboutisms “ kinda pathetic. Calling for armed uprisings, can they get any more unhinged? Keep up the spin
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 12:18 PM
Well that didn't take long to misrepresent, did it?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Sep 30, 19 12:43 PM
It was his constitutional duty and right to do so. And he RELEASED the transcript. He didn’t bleach-bit them or smash them with a hammer. I already posted this. So libbies...read it again and learn something:

SEAN HANNITY (HOST): Let's talk about the law.

GREGG JARRETT: Nancy Pelosi misstated the law today when she said the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence, shall or must hand over the complaint to Congress.

That's completely wrong. The whistle-blower ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Sep 30, 19 1:50 PM
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Let's talk about the law, Diseased: Trump requested dirt on Biden from the Ukrainian president.

What element of the crime isn't met?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Sep 30, 19 2:58 PM
Diseased, this isn’t about Hillary, get over it. This will be decided, not by Rudy or some other partisan on hannity. It will play out in Congress, time will tell. You act like trump is some kind of angel, you are mistaken. I believe he has other problems if he doesn’t get re-elected. Keep up the trumpeteer derangement, you posters are hilarious. What about Hillary, Joe Biden? Sorry tds, this is trumps cross to bear.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 2:21 PM
Like the potential ten counts of obstruction of justice? This a****** actually had the cogliones to call Robert Mueller "incompetent".

It is to laugh...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 30, 19 5:26 PM
From Stonekettle Station......They are terrified that the dam has been breached, that more whistleblowers will come forward. They don’t trust you, but they for damned sure can’t trust each other, not when the only way to save themselves might be to sell out their fellows. There is no honor among thieves and there is no loyalty among those who see integrity as a roadblock to power and wealth
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 4:15 PM
thanks for seeing the light Freddy, the Democrat Party is rotten to the core, corruption is a prerequisite to success as a Democrat candidate.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 30, 19 5:25 PM
Sure. That's why Democratic presidential administrations have so far fewer felony indictments and convictions to their record. GOP administrations have 38 TIMES the conviction rate since 1961. That's dead even at five administrations apiece.

That has to be the most ignorant post I've read in quite a while.

Republicans: 28 years, 126 indictments, 113 convictions, 39 prison time
Democrats: 28 years, 7 indictments, 3 convictions, 1 prison time
Sep 30, 19 5:34 PM appended by Mr. Z
You and the fool who spewed that spurious, steaming pile of sewage are officially ****** full of **** and have ZERO credibility.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Sep 30, 19 5:34 PM
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By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 5:37 PM
Really bitter Freddy? An implied threat there perhaps? Surely you're not going there in a public forum are you?
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 30, 19 5:42 PM
Bigfresh, sticking your head in the sand is a saying. How can that be a threat?explain how that could in anyway be thought of as a threat. From the Cambridge Dictionary
bury/have your head in the sand. ​ to refuse to think about unpleasant facts, although they will have an influence on your situation: You've got to face facts here - you can't just bury your head in the sand. Neglecting and ignoring.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 6:16 PM
"it's safer for you"? Just pointing out the typical hypocrisy of the alt left, preaching acceptance , but not accepting of opinions contrary to their own , resorting to threats when confronted. Swell on the way!!
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Sep 30, 19 6:28 PM
Resorting to threats when confronted? I take it back. Get your head out of the sand, sounds like your getting light headed from lack of air.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 6:52 PM
Let's all please remember to Dump Alex Gregor.
It's better for the climate.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Sep 30, 19 5:40 PM
Your avatar is a home run marlin
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 6:16 PM
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Muchas Gracias Freddy !
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 1, 19 9:19 AM
Upstate New York’s own Chris Collins resigns. Hers trumps tweet when he was indicted .Last September, after Collins and another GOP congressman faced federal charges, Trump tweeted, "Two long running, Obama era, investigations of two very popular Republican Congressmen were brought to a well publicized charge, just ahead of the Mid-Terms, by the Jeff Sessions Justice Department. Two easy wins now in doubt because there is not enough time. Good job Jeff..."the best of the best
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Sep 30, 19 5:41 PM
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By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 1, 19 12:25 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

John Coates seems to think even the "civil war" tweet is grounds for dismissal. I say, let the hits keep on rockin' and rollin'...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 1, 19 1:20 AM
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By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 1, 19 5:15 AM
Another wanna be presidential candidate from the left calling for outright censorship of the opposition. First it was Biden requesting that Giuliani be blocked from going on the major networks and now this fraud Kamala requesting that our Commander-in-Chief be silenced. This is straight up Communism.Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Google - all pose as “platforms”, but behave like editors, censuring any political speech which challenges their socialist globalist agenda.

She is a ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 5:52 AM
The presidents Civil War tweet actually said " it will cause a Civil war like fracture in this nation from which our Country will never heal" stop trying to incite a bigger argument, the left has unhinged
Oct 1, 19 5:59 AM appended by Ditch Bum
the left has become unhinged !
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 5:59 AM
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No Fred it is the left that is teetering on a dangerous line !

While the left is busy demonizing President Trump for warning of civil war, NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” put out a sketch suggesting he should be assassinated because impeaching him would take too long.

During a mock news segment skit, “anchor” Michael Ché said that while he was initially excited about impeachment prospects, after learning it would take some time he suggested that Trump ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 1, 19 6:26 AM
The next Civil War :
ANTIFA vs. NRA.
Ladies & Gentleman place your bets.
Oct 1, 19 7:45 AM appended by themarlinspike
(Winner plays The Ukraine for World Championship.)
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 1, 19 7:45 AM
Rep. Liz Cheney

Verified account

Speaker Pelosi and the House Democrats have abdicated their duty to the Constitution and to the American people by launching a partisan impeachment inquiry into the President.

Washington – Wyoming Congresswoman and House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney (R-WY) released the following statement after Speaker Pelosi announced that the House will launch a formal impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump:

“As ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 1, 19 6:51 AM
Liz Cheney comes from excellent stock.” Wars are us” based on lies. She’s the next speaker of the house?
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 1, 19 7:01 AM
Yeah, it’s the left talking civil war. The oath keepers were the original posters of the threat, a solid left wing bunch of guys. Trumpeteer derangement syndrome in full effect. Maybe if trump wasn’t a liar and didn’t surround himself with know nothing sycophants, he might be ok, but the opposite is happening. Back a liar, you lose every time. Lies can be verified.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 1, 19 6:59 AM
Conflation of events and propaganda..If you care about the water table stop all the fertilizer and pesticides..The effects are compounded by artificial irrigation to support non native species...We do not control climate..weather changes all the time..remember ice ages.
By Nik (1), Easthampton on Oct 1, 19 7:40 AM
If the transcript of the Ukraine phone call was as damning as the left insists it is, why didn't schiff simply read it instead of fabricating every word in what he called a parody?
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 1, 19 7:47 AM
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The call speaks for itself. Time will tell how it plays out. You and your fellow posters just keep spinning, very entertaining.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 1, 19 8:07 AM
The answer even flow is because Democrats haven't been winning in the arena of public opinion on impeachment. So what do they need to do fearing an avalanche of backlash in the next election knowing they can't win against the president on the issues? Fabricate an illusion to influence the opinion of the low information voters view of what actually occurred during the call so that impeachment progresses with favorable opinion.

You see, the prize is to win the next election at ANY cost. ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 9:06 AM
Schiff spoke for it. Thus, it didn’t speak for itself. By definition.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 1, 19 9:33 AM
I think the most disgusting thing I've ever seen is people threatening to commit violent acts if they don't get their way at the voting booth.

Thinking it's OK to commit violent criminal acts because you lose an election is repugnant and un-American.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 10:35 AM
At least Even Flow admits that Schiff called it a parody rather than intended it as an accurate word-for-word recital of the call.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 10:44 AM
Why did you just change the subject? Nobody is even debating that? In fact, what on earth are you even talking about?
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 1, 19 10:45 AM
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Po is talking about the most disgusting thing he's ever seen so I'm talking about the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.

You haven't seen the comments here talking about violent insurrection if Trump isn't reelected? How about Trump's comment promoting talk of civil war?

Just disgusting.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 10:51 AM
Trump is going to be re-elected and will get 2-3 additional SCOTUS appointments during his second term. You can unfurl yourself from the fetal position. You're going to be just fine.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 1, 19 10:57 AM
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I have no doubt I'll be fine if he's reelected, which is likely, thanks to the privilege I've accumulated throughout my life in the best country in the world.

You'd also probably be just fine if he wasn't. So what?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 11:02 AM
Po, you're speaking in Lie again.
As of this morning, a quick and huge jump in the polls with a majority now favoring impeachment proceedings.
The dam has broken, your ship is sinking, the whole cabal has been caught and going down.
That "prize" you speak of? No president in history has been so desperate to win as to enlist the help of foreign GOVERNMENTS (yes, more than one) employing OUR (lying, corrupted) State and Defense Departments in the process solely ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 1, 19 11:30 AM
I predict Po will answer something along the lines of "I don't trust any polls" even though he happily cites the ones he likes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 11:39 AM
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THE GRAND ILLUSION. I think we've established the Democrat goal is to influence the polls and a"quick and huge jump."

There's a reason a parody of events has to be used, and it's sole purpose is to sensationalize actual events to influence a quick and huge jump.

By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 12:43 PM
I don't think you have established that. I think the goal is oversight and transparency.

Two things Trump tried to avoid by hiding the transcript of the call. That's called a cover-up.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 12:45 PM
LMAO..."Two things Trump tried to avoid by hiding the transcript of the call."

Uh....in an unprecedented move, the president released the transcript of the call.

It's the Democrat grand illusion.

If the goal was oversight and transparency for Democrats, you'd be able to see the context of the call wasn't to benefit the president.

By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 2:19 PM
White House admits lawyers hid transcript of damning Trump call in top-secret server. NY Daily News, September 27, 2019.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 2:25 PM
The lying sack of Schiff called his opening statement a parody ONLY after he was caught ,if he started his commentary with "this is a parody" all would have been fine but he did not. The alt left has conveniently ignored his lie.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 1, 19 3:42 PM
Bigfresh, just a refresher on this. The White House released the conversation. No matter what Schiff said, the text of the conversation is now public knowledge. Get it? No ones trying to trick you. I find it hilarious you back trump who’s told 12,000 + lies since taking office, Schiff says it was a parody and you get your knickers in a knot.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 1, 19 3:51 PM
BF, can you please quote exactly what you think the "lie" was?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 4:48 PM
You can't find Schiff's ficticious parody of lies?

Yes, American's have their knickers in a knot. You people want to impeach a president who has done nothing wrong since before he even took office, and you have to rely on lies. That's disgusting!
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 11:57 AM
Po, can YOU please quote exactly what YOU think the "lie" was?

P.S. Soliciting opposition research about a political opponent from a foreign national in connection with an election is a CRIME.

No matter how much you wish it was true, the president is NOT above the law.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:02 PM
You can't find Schiff's ficticious parody of lies?

Yes, we've been telling you that about the Clinton/Steele dossier. It was a crime.

Soliciting assistance from a foreign leader to look into corruption in connection with an election, however, is NOT a crime.
Oct 2, 19 12:04 PM appended by Po Boy
No matter how much you wish it wasn't true, NO ONE is above the law.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:04 PM
Your inability or unwillingness to quote the "lie" is noted.

Trump solicited opposition research from a foreign national: there's a transcript that proves it.

When did Clinton do the same? Do me a "favor" and don't hold your breath trying to find it: it doesn't exist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:10 PM
There is only your perception and the illusion based on your perception.

Hillary didn't request it? How do you know? Isn't the origins of the election interference what the president is trying to look into?

What are Democrats so afraid of?


By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:19 PM
Show me the smoking gun, Po.

We all saw Trump's, in his own words, written down by his own advisors.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:27 PM
Show me the smoking gun, Fore.

The only thing you post is a parody of his words. Why is that?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:32 PM
The smoking gun is the July 25 transcript of Trump's call with the Ukrainian president.

It's no parody, it's the President's own words.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 1:13 PM
And the words are far from a smoking gun when the content is in regard to the interest of the public.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:16 PM
Is there a "public interest" exception to the law?

Show it to me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:20 PM
The official must agree to be influenced in exchange for the benefit and must have corrupt intent — the wrongful purpose to act out of self-interest rather than in the public interest.

"us"...."our country"

Read the call transcript for pete sake.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:45 PM
Well that's not true. "Solicitation" is a one-way street, Po. You're thinking "conspiracy."

You think it's unquestionable that it was in the public interest because Trump SAID it was? Great! Have at it!

Even if true, there's no "public interest" exception to the law
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:57 PM
I can't placate what you have in your own mind. Even the Ukranian Prime Minister who was on the call with the president has said he didn't feel pressured.

Of couse there is an exception to the law when in the public interest speaks to the greater good when Joe Biden is alleged to have been a pawn in Ukranian corruption.

And let'snot forget. The part of the call that speaks to the Democrat funded company of Crowdstrike which looked at the server of the Democrat National Committee ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 8:58 PM
MON, SEP 30TH, 2019 BY SEAN COLAROSSI

Conservative Commentator Ridicules Trump For Running The Most Incompetent Cover-Up In History

Top conservative commentator Charlie Sykes said Monday that Donald Trump and his defenders in the administration are running “one of the least effective cover-ups in history.”
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 1, 19 1:47 PM
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Never heard of him, and come to learn, for good reason. Is there anything the Left doesn't have to manipulate?

"Sean Colarossi currently resides in Cleveland, Ohio. He earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in Journalism from the University of Massachusetts Amherst and was an organizing fellow for both of President Obama’s presidential campaigns. He also worked with Planned Parenthood as an Affordable Care Act Outreach Organizer in 2014, helping northeast Ohio residents obtain health ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 1, 19 2:15 PM
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Ad hominem, short for argumentum ad hominem, typically refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 2:28 PM
there's nothing to cover up Einstein!
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 1, 19 3:44 PM
Lol, if there's nothing to cover up then why was the call moved to a top-secret server?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 4:44 PM
@ Po Boy: Sean Colarossi is not a conservative. He is writing ABOUT a conservative, Numnuts. For the love of all that's holy, get yourself straight before you pop off, will ya'?
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 1, 19 9:50 PM
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Etymology is fundamental.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 1, 19 10:51 PM
what was the alleged crime committed by President Trump that warrants impeachment?
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 2, 19 6:32 AM
BF: soliciting opposition research about a political opponent from a foreign national in connection with an election is a CRIME.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 7:20 AM
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Yes it is. That's what we've been telling you about the Clinton/Steele dossier.

Soliciting assistance from a foreign leader to look into corruption in connection with an election, however, is NOT a crime. Just ask Bob.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 11:52 AM
Did Clinton request opposition research from a foreign national, or did someone else do it on their own volition? Here, we have a transcript of the request coming straight from the horse's mouth. Where's the request from Clinton?

By the way, the Mueller investigation fails on the element of "in connection with an election", womp womp.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:04 PM
Did the president request it? Which part?

Womp womp womp

Nope. That's the illusion you're trying to create based on your percpetion of the conversation.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:12 PM


"what was the alleged crime committed by President Trump that warrants impeachment?"
---bigfresh Oct.2,19 6:32AM.

Impeachment does not require a crime to have been committed.

Congress has identified three general types of conduct that constitute grounds, although these categories are not be understood as exhaustive:

(1) improperly exceeding or abusing the powers of the office;
(2) behavior incompatible with the function and purpose ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 2, 19 12:17 PM
You're correct June, but there is a fourth. Impeachment is at it's core a political process and that's what we're seeing in full spectacle by the Democrats.

The president hasn't done 1,2, OR 3.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:22 PM
Lol, there's no "illusion" there's just the president's own words.

Are you frustrated that he doesn't appear to know the law?

That's not my problem, it's yours, his, and his supporters'.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:25 PM
Why do you continually parody the president's own words?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:31 PM
I don't think I do. The president requested opposition research on a political opponent from a foreign national. That's no parody. That's what happened.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 1:01 PM
@ Po Boy:
First, are you not able to grasp that the subject is GROUNDS for impeachment, not what impeachment is???
Second, trump meets all three criteria. His attempt to shake down Zelensky for personal gain is a complete and total misuse of the office(3), is behavior incompatible with the function and purpose of the office(2), and a gross abuse of the power of the office(1) which he put on steroids now that he has the State, Justice and Energy department heads involved. ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 2, 19 1:18 PM
Sure June. I can grasp that the subject is GROUNDS for impeachment. I can also grasp what the grounds are not. Can you?

The president meets none of the grounds. You're pulling a shifty Schiff creating and progressing the ILLUSION having to lie and manufacture with flowery language and allegations the illusion. Despicable.
Oct 2, 19 6:26 PM appended by Po Boy
Nice rant btw.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 6:26 PM
He’s referring to Po boys reply. Try to follow
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 1, 19 3:52 PM
Ladies and gents. Mark this day down on your calendars. This is the day that Fore1gn showed us all what an absolute hypocritical snowflake he really is. I’m going to copy this post in my iPhone notes and will forever haunt him with his own hypocritical words every chance I get. I l’ll probably pull it out later tonight. Him and Fred are the most guilty of exactly what he’s calling other people out for. Hypocritical liberals. Sickening:

“Ad hominem, short for argumentum ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 1, 19 4:10 PM
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This isn't the first time I've posted that definition, but feel free to bring it up whenever you think it is relevant, Diseased. I frequently ridicule people's words and ideas, but never the person themself.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 4:42 PM
Diseased, hold the presses. I don’t think you know what your talking about . Mr z posted a story quoting Charlie Sykes, definitely a conservative. Po boy, deflects and questions the author, not Charlie Sykes. Fore then calls him on it, classic ad hominem.you following? Didn’t think so
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 1, 19 4:23 PM
Hmmm. Right in Fred and Fore1gns backyard. The actual picture is a classic:

EXCLUSIVE: A photo obtained by Fox News' "Tucker Carlson Tonight" shows former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter golfing in the Hamptons with Devon Archer, who served on the board of the Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Holdings with Hunter.

Earlier this month, Joe Biden told Fox News in Iowa that he never discussed his son’s foreign business dealings with him.

“I have ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 1, 19 9:02 PM
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Yes, and?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 1, 19 9:14 PM
Diseased, if you were an investigative reporter, you’d spend your life sharpening pencils and emptying the trash.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 1, 19 9:31 PM
If this is global warming, I’m all for it. 80 in October. Thank you to those who drive SUVs and eat cheeseburgers!
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 2, 19 6:25 AM
even better, driving on the beach , setting up the BBQ and grilling those burgers!
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 2, 19 6:34 AM
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Turns out that Trump's depraved suggestion that the whistleblower who reported his Ukranian crimes should be killed isn't his most startling lunatic outrage:

"Shoot Migrants’ Legs, Build Alligator Moat: Behind Trump’s Ideas for Border" by Michael D. Shear and Julie Hirschfeld Davis (NY Times, Oct. 1, 2019)

And this is the crazed moron who has his finger on the nuclear trigger. ['SHUDDER']


By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 2, 19 11:53 AM
"My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 11:59 AM
Repackaged old "news." Something we've come to expect from the Bitter Clingers.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:02 PM
You're useful alright. Two dime-a-dozen angry democrats who write for a slanted democrat propaganda outlet print drivel borne of hatred.

You read it and it confirms your bias.

Hours later, you're posting it online as support for your hatred.

Meanwhile, nothing changes. No need to get all angry. You're not alone. It's EXTREMELY typical.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 2, 19 12:04 PM
You're right, nothing changes, Trump still solicited opposition research about a political opponent from a foreign national in connection with an election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:06 PM
Where?

Soliciting assistance from a foreign leader to look into corruption in connection with an election, is NOT a crime.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:14 PM
It IS a crime when done with connection with an election.

Being president or looking into "corruption" are not exceptions to the law.

By the way, we're talking about the call with the Ukrainian president on July 25 in case you seriously don't know.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:23 PM
Yeah I know the call. You clearly haven't read the transript.

The 2016 elcection? You can't be serious. Well that would explain why Obama didn't do crap about it. LMAO.

Actually being president and looking into it is EXACTLY his job. In case you didn't know, The executive branch of the U.S. government is responsible for enforcing laws; its power is vested in the President.

By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 12:29 PM
No, Po, he did not "solicit assistance from a foreign leader to look into corruption in connection with an election". He engaged in a shakedown for personal gain. Using our money as leverage. Mercilessly against a country under serious threat in desperate need of that money. Unquestionable grounds even if there wasn't a foreign govt involved. The involvement of a foreign govt. of course makes it that much worse. Further, the corrupt Ukranian prosecutor was not investigating Hunter Biden ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 2, 19 12:44 PM
June, let's take for granted Trump's intent was to "look into corruption."

That doesn't matter. There's no "look into corruption" exception to the law.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 12:51 PM
I know. But Po indicated he doesn't.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 2, 19 1:35 PM

It was his constitutional duty and right to do so. And he RELEASED the transcript. He didn’t bleach-bit them or smash them with a hammer. I already posted this. So libbies...read it again and learn something:

SEAN HANNITY (HOST): Let's talk about the law.

GREGG JARRETT: Nancy Pelosi misstated the law today when she said the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence, shall or must hand over the complaint to Congress.

That's completely wrong. The whistle-blower ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 2, 19 3:01 PM
Nah, it's not his constitutional duty to ask for dirt on a political opponent from a foreign national in connection with an election.

Didn't the Director of National Intelligence also say the whistle-blower handled the complaint correctly and didn't do anything wrong?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 3:32 PM
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Sure it is. Just because it may be a political opponent doesn't excuse the alleged personal enrichment being questioned, and to say the president should ignore it is absolutely ludicrous, especially when we have an agreement with the Ukraine government regarding cooperation with corruption issues.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 6:19 PM
You seem to believe democrats are saying Trump can't investigate Biden at all, when the issue is specifically with requesting the information directly from the Ukrainian president.

Alternatively Trump could have asked his FBI or DOJ to look into it, and THEY could have asked the Ukrainian government about it without running afoul of the law, provided they weren't doing it on Trump's direct orders.

That's exactly why Clinton was in the clear on the information gathered from foreign ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 7:07 PM
You don't think a leader of one country can't facilitate cooperation from another leader of a country on behalf agencies like the FBI/DOJ?

That's exactly the president's job!
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 10:54 AM
It only becomes a crime when it's in connection with an election: pay attention, Po.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 11:18 AM
Not when it's in connection with the 2016 election and not when there it is in the interest of the public.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:15 PM
Lol, it's also in connection with the 2020 election and the law doesn't say "unless it's in the public interest."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:22 PM
The official must agree to be influenced in exchange for the benefit and must have corrupt intent — the wrongful purpose to act out of self-interest rather than in the public interest. Isn't investigating the appearance of corruption on the part of Joe Biden when he was in the employment of the country as vice president in the public interest if he did in fact influence the firing of a prosecutor who was considering investigating joe Biden's son?

Come on Mr. Appearance of Corruption ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:43 PM
Well that's not true. "Solicitation" is a one-way street, Po. You're thinking "conspiracy."

I have no problem with investigating anyone through the proper channels.

A president making requests for investigations into political opponents directly from foreign nationals is not a proper channel.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:49 PM
The president wasn't doing the investigating.

A president making a request to investigate potential corruption when it's in the counties interest is a perfectly legitimate place to begin the proper channel.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:52 PM
False. There is no "public interest" exception to the law.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:54 PM
But that doesn't make it any less irrelevent, does it? It certainly speaks to motivation, right?

Face it. Quid pro Joe was acting in his wn self-interest getting his son sweathear financial deals. He was as corrupt as the Ukrainian corruption he was there to help stamp out.
Oct 5, 19 5:13 PM appended by Po Boy
Irrlevent to your claim of relevence, that is.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 5, 19 5:13 PM
Newsweek reported today that 40% of republicans don't believe Trump mentioned Biden during the now infamous phone call proving once again that if Trump murdered a Catholic nun in the middle of times Square with 1000 witnesses, ⅓ of the Trumpetts would say it didn't happen, ⅓ would say she deserved it and the last ⅓ would say"BudWhuddAbout Hilary's e-mail server...
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Oct 2, 19 3:33 PM
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All liberals: “It’s only wrong when Republicans do it.”

Bernie Sanders: “Private insurance saved my life. Now let’s switch to socialized medicine”

I’m sensing a theme here. I think the word starts with an H and has a y, p and a c in it.
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 2, 19 4:44 PM
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Not all liberals agree with Bernie Sanders on eliminating the private insurance industry.

I'm happy to distinguish between Trump's request for opposition research on a political opponent from a foreign national and whatever you think democrats did if you'd like.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 5:21 PM
Did you all see Trump's exchange with a reporter who simply asked what Trump sought from the Ukrainian president regarding Biden?

His response was hyper-emotional, even for him...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 5:23 PM
Yeah, because after the president answered the question, the reporter asked it again because he didn't like the answer. Good for the president.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 2, 19 6:15 PM
The question was what Trump sought from the Ukrainian president regarding Joe Biden.

If you think the president answered it, would you care to quote that answer here?

I watched the video and didn't hear it. I welcome everyone to do the same and make up your own mind.

What's not up for debate is the president's hyper-emotional response. I laughed alongside the president of Finland.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 2, 19 7:09 PM
Yeah, the president is pissed as he should be. He addressed the crux of the issue, didn't he? The corrupt media...the corrupt Bidens. Wouldn't you be if you were harassed and accused for something you didn't do? Who wouldn't be? What would you do with corruption?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 10:52 AM
Nah, he avoided answering what exactly he sought from the Ukrainian president regarding Joe Biden, and not very smoothly.

As far what I would do about perceived corruption? I'd instruct my DOJ and FBI to investigate (that's kind of their job) while avoiding even the slightest appearance of self-serving politically-fueled requests from other world leaders.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 11:11 AM
Seems the issue has been cleared up, yes?

So you wouldn't do your job as head of those law enforcement agencies to facilitate investigation into corruption? That's ludicrous. Sure it's those agencies job. It's also the president's job to facilitate cooperation, and when asked in context of the country, there is no corrupt intent. It is acting in the public interest rather than self-interest. .
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 12:57 PM
Is there no way to foster that cooperation without making requests regarding political opponents from foreign nationals?

That's pretty naive. Aren't you the one on the "appearance of impropriety is as bad as actual impropriety" train?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:01 PM
It's naïve to think an issue of corruption regarding what occurred in 2016 can't be discussed at some level by two leaders.

I'm just glad you're finally on board with the "appearance of impropriety" being somewhat important. You've dismissed that entirely in the past when "no wrong doing was found."
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:10 PM
Lol, I'm not saying that's my standard, I'm asking you why you apply it in some instances but not this one.

There's proper channels for investigating alleged corruption. I think you know asking other world leaders for investigations into political opponents is not one of them.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:19 PM
Lol, because there is no appearance of impropriety when it's in the interest of the United States.

Of course asking for cooperation from other world leaders for investigations into corruption is one of them. It's why we have corruption agreements with those countries and perfectly legitimate when corruption is suspected.
Oct 3, 19 1:37 PM appended by Po Boy
LMAO. Don't you think Joe Biden has a problem with the appearance of impropriety? I mean, isn't that what this is all about??
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:37 PM
Oh so there's already an existing agreement? So why is the president doing it instead of delegating it to law enforcement agencies working pursuant to that agreement through established channels?

You think there's zero appearance of impropriety on Trump's behalf? Even Republican Senators have begun to agree the call is problematic.

But hey, cheer leaders gonna cheer. Good luck with that!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:44 PM
Oh good Lord. "Why is the president doing it?" Because the Ukraine is a country riddled with....wait for it....

CORRUPTION!!

Who cares what "republican senators" think.

When you get right down to it... ZERO impropriety on the presidents behalf when you see that he says "us" in relation to "our country" and not him personally.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:49 PM
Oh, you think it's unquestionable that it was in the public interest because Trump SAID it was? Great! Have at it!

Even if true, there's no "public interest" exception to the law
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:55 PM
You don't think it's in the public's best interest to investigate a vice-president and now presidential candidate who was sent to the Ukraine as the ambassador against corruption and his son ends up with sweetheart deals in both the Ukraine and China?

Actually, doing something in the public's best interest negates that something was done in self interest. Joe biden securing sweetheart financial deals for his son when he's supposed to be working to address corruption IS in self-interest. ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 5, 19 5:08 PM
sick and feed up with the games and hearing all the bs from the left ... i don't care what happens in the next year, i will be proud to vote for president trump in november
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Oct 2, 19 5:42 PM
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Even after he murders the nun in Times Square?
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Oct 2, 19 5:52 PM
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Even after he murders the nun in Times Square?
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Oct 2, 19 5:52 PM
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House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) did not notify Republicans on the committee of an intelligence official who came to one of his aides with concerns about President Trump before filing an official whistleblower complaint, according to the top Republican on the committee.

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) said in a statement:

We learn from the press today that Chm Schiff had prior knowledge and involvement in the [whistleblower] complaint. He withheld this info from ...more
Oct 3, 19 6:49 AM appended by 27dan
As the Ukraine Hoax begins to unravel, President Trump’s job approval rating has jumped to its highest level of the year.
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 3, 19 6:49 AM
There is No Legitimate Accusation.... there is No Legitimate Media Coverage.... No Legitimate Investigation and the entire House of Representatives has become Fractured... Ugly and Dysfunctional.... Fascistic Monstrosity! The Salem Witch Trials made more sense
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 3, 19 6:52 AM
Schiff said he didn't have knowledge of the whistle-blower's identity and hadn't spoken to them personally. Are either of those things false? Prove it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 7:09 AM
@ 27dan

A non-story, so irrelevant that Trump immediately lied about it to try to give it SOME gravitas, falsely claiming that Schiff "helped write" the whistleblower's complaint.

(YOUR claim that Trump's approval rating "jumped to its highest level of the year" is ALSO a lie, no matter what poll you choose to reference. You ape your master well.)

By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 3, 19 11:07 AM
Bravo to the Press for this weeks editorial. Maybe the above posters should read it.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 3, 19 7:05 AM
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Schiff said he didn't have knowledge of the whistle-blower's identity and hadn't spoken to them personally. Are either of those things false? Prove it.

You’re a lying attorney. You should know better. Or are you that gullible ? Or do you think WE’RE all gullible? It’s one or the other. Schiff is a Harvard Law grad. He’s smart, I’ll give him that. But he’s also cunning and gives off the impression that he would would stop at nothing to try and bring down ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 3, 19 9:16 AM
Your comment is 167 words and none of them proves, or even alleges, Schiff knew the whistle-blower's identity or spoke to them personally.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 9:33 AM
I smell justice
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 3, 19 9:34 AM
. . . and Joe Biden wants to get close & smell your hair.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 3, 19 10:04 AM
Irrelevant post
riddled with innuendo
to no one's surprise.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 10:10 AM
This is not your website.
Oct 3, 19 10:56 AM appended by themarlinspike
STOP PLAYING WITH YOURSELF
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 3, 19 10:56 AM
No, it is not, fish.
It is my entertainment.
You are my plaything.
Oct 3, 19 11:06 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Yell more tomorrow.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 11:06 AM
First you have to eat the peanuts out of a can.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 4, 19 7:47 AM
With Biden exposed as a dime-a-dozen career bureaucrat sleazeball and Sanders stuck paying off his obamacare deductible, it looks like the left will be forced to nominate an unlikable female candidate whose lied her entire life and has zero accomplishments.

That worked out well for them last time.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 3, 19 10:24 AM
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At least career bureaucrats know that soliciting a thing of value from a foreign national in connection with an election is wrong.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 10:36 AM
Irrelevant post
riddled with innuendo
to no one's surprise.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7879), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 10:10 AM
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 3, 19 10:41 AM
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Is it irrelevant to talk about career bureaucrats in response to a post about career bureaucrats?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 11:04 AM
A trained squirrel would be better then trump. No insult to squirrels, which I like.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 3, 19 10:36 AM
A trained squirrel would know the difference between "then" and "than." Credit to the trained squirrel where credit is due.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 10:43 AM
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Thanks for the correction Po boy!!!
Oct 3, 19 10:46 AM appended by Fred s
Without spell check, you’d need a enigma machine to read my posts
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 3, 19 10:46 AM
Very civil response to a very uncivil correction. Kudos!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 11:37 AM
Fred didn't insult the squirrels and I gave credit to the squirrels. How is that not civil?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:06 PM
Hey Po, if you're going to be a jerk don't be surprised when you get called out on it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 1:10 PM
Exactly!
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 1:11 PM

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
· Sep 26, 2019
Wait a minute. Check this out: Schiff tweeted this exact same Trump-Ukraine "collusion" narrative a month ago. Hmm ... Exactly how long have Schiffty-Schiff and Dems been working with this "whistleblower"? Smelling more and more like prefabrication https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1166867471862829056 …
Adam Schiff

@RepAdamSchiff
Trump is withholding vital military aid to Ukraine, while his personal ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 3, 19 10:47 AM
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There's no evidence Schiff or Democrats "worked with" anyone.

There's a one-way communication with a member of Schiff's office.

Try harder.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 3, 19 11:08 AM
Schiff getting caught lying about his contacts with this phony Deep State “whistleblower” is the least surprising thing about any of this. Of course he was working with the fake whistleblower to fabricate this non-scandal. Of course he lied about it. Of course other Democrats were involved. Of course the establishment media were in on it.

We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower. We would like to. But I’m sure the whistleblower has concerns that he has not been ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 6:45 PM
CIA is not for domestic issues-why in WHITE HOUSE? CIA is for international investigations. Were CIA agents in Obama's White house? Just askin…...
By Taz (705), East Quogue on Oct 3, 19 12:12 PM
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Taz, is the Ukraine part of the USA? Just askin
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 3, 19 12:47 PM
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CIA agent was posted in White House, not Ukraine.????
By Taz (705), East Quogue on Oct 3, 19 1:09 PM
Taz, are you implying no cia agents are in the USA?
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 3, 19 1:53 PM
Oddly enough, until recently, a whistleblower complaint required first-hand as opposed to second and third-hand knowledge.

Gee, wonder why those rules were suddenly changed…?
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 4, 19 1:03 AM
Polling from the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) shows impeachment is backfiring bigly in battleground districts.

The most important finding in this poll is the following: “Democrats are only consolidating their own base” with respect to impeachment.

That is exactly right, and that is what we are seeing in every poll gauging impeachment. The elite media headlines scream, “Support for Impeachment Rises!” Yeah, to 44 percent or 46 percent, ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 3, 19 6:39 PM
So is trump building up his base?
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 3, 19 6:41 PM
The phony whistleblower told us Trump would threaten Ukraine with the withholding of crucial U.S. aid unless Ukraine agreed to help him politically — which, oddly enough, is exactly what Joe Biden did.

Instead, as the transcript of the phone call proves, it was Ukraine’s president who brought up the issue of corruption and all Trump did was ask him to look into Biden’s threat to withhold U.S. aid if Ukraine refused to fire a prosecutor who was digging into the energy company ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 4, 19 1:05 AM
@Ditch: Who is feeding you such distortion?
First, Joe Biden did not threaten Ukraine for personal political gain. Trump did. Joe Biden's role in Ukraine was part of official United States foreign policy business.
Second, there is no verbatim transcript.
"The White House acknowledged that the five-page "unredacted" memo released Wednesday is not a verbatim record of the conversation between the two leaders July 25, which has become central to the impeachment ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 4, 19 9:02 PM
Everyone is arguing the whistleblower’s complaint is weak because it is all based on second and third-hand information. No, this is exactly wrong.

That was The Plan.

That was always The Plan.

Schiff, the media, and the Deep State deliberately went this route because it means witnesses hauled before an impeachment inquiry are immediately put on defense, have to prove a negative, have to prove they did not do or say something without meeting their accuser — ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 3, 19 6:43 PM
Ditch bum, yes trump is a tactical genius. Worst president in history, going down in flames
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 4, 19 8:10 AM
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Quotes:

"WHO CHANGED THE LONG STANDING WHISTLEBLOWER RULES JUST BEFORE SUBMITTAL OF THE FAKE WHISTLEBLOWER REPORT? DRAIN THE SWAMP!" - Trump tweet.

"Fact check: Trump and other Republicans falsely claim whistleblower rules changed just before Ukraine complaint" by Holmes Lybrand and Zachary Cohen (CNN, September 30, 2019")
----------------------------------

They LIE and LIE and LIE and LIE and LIE and LIE and LIE and LIE and LIE and LIE . . . . . . . . . . .
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 4, 19 1:22 PM
It was a mistake and lots of people made it. Nonetheless, it's moot. Your goal of impeachment will never materialize.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 4, 19 4:23 PM
Moot or moat? Asking for trumps next tweet
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 4, 19 4:29 PM
The media recycling an old nothingburger into a BOMBSHELL made it pretty obvious the Ukraine Hoax was already running on fumes just a few days after it launched.

Did you hear that Drumpf — whom the walls are closing in on — tried to hide his call with Ukraine on a secret server so that he could cover up all his threats and quid pro quodom?

Not to keep tooting my own horn, but *toot* I toldja we’d find out Obama used the same “secret server” and … ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 5, 19 2:12 AM
Thanks HHS for dispelling one myth. Many more to go.keep this up and the right wing posters on here will be mimes.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 4, 19 1:33 PM
And the wheels on the bus.....


Breaking via NYT: A second intel official who was alarmed by Trump's Ukraine dealings is weighing whether to file his own formal whistleblower complaint and testify to Congress.

The official has more direct info about events than the first whistleblower. https://nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/second-trump-whistleblower.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 4, 19 9:39 PM
What the Deep State, the media, and Democrats saw in this whole debacle was a two-fer: 1) get Drumpf and 2) save Biden from the brewing Ukraine scandal involving his rent-seeking son Hunter.

Well, we already know part one has imploded, but somehow part two has imploded even more.

All this failed coup attempt has done is to put a glaring spotlight on Joe and Hunter and Hunter’s $50,000 a month — a month! — salary to sit on the board of a company he knows nothing ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 5, 19 2:13 AM
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@ Ditch Bum

While desperate true believers fabricate false narratives to distract from the ACTUAL criminal behavior of their leader, the rest of the world looks on in horrified fascination as Trump's paranoia eclipses his megalomania.*

With dread in its heart, normal America wonders just how much longer Republican Senators will enable this increasingly deranged man's proximity to the atomic trigger.



*"‘Me! Me!’: An aggrieved Trump spins an alternate ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 5, 19 6:13 AM
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By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 5, 19 6:47 AM
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Even flow, one thing he does do is back up his points with reputable published reports, something your fellow posters neglect.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 7:24 AM
The Etymology of “Misdemeanor”

The crime of the century is not going to be a misdemeanor, but the history of the word itself may be more interesting than some of the crimes it describes. Looked at the right way, it could be construed to mean “misconducting animals by threatening them,” which might be poetic or might not, I haven’t decided.

Wiktionary gives the etymology of misdemeanor by breaking the word down into two pieces: “mis” (against, ...more
Oct 4, 19 10:04 PM appended by Mr. Z
DA in CA Criminal Law From The Perspective Of The People
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 4, 19 10:04 PM
U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low
By Greg Robb
Published: Oct 4, 2019 5:34 p.m. ET

Joe Biden Explodes Over Question About Son’s Ties to Ukraine: ‘I’m Not Going to Respond to That’

Why on earth should Biden answer such impudent questions about finances ???

He should be able to spend Ukrainian oil company consultancy fees in any way he sees fit !!!

What is the point of being a Vice President if ...more
Oct 5, 19 1:49 AM appended by 27dan
Everytime the Left screams, "this is it - Trump is doomed", I celebrate. It means Trump is winning and their little heads are exploding. What he Left fails to realize it they play into his hand, time after time. "Honest Charlie Brown, I'll hold the football this time."
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 5, 19 1:49 AM
Do nothing Dems all summer- RECESSION!!!!

data yesterday-

January 2017 to august 2019. middle class families have seen a $5,003 increase in wages

lowest ever Black unemployment
lowest ever high school graduate unemployment
lowest inflation rate in 50 yrs
lowest overall employment rate in 50 yrs
consumer spending up every quarter since Trump won
lowest ever female unemployment
lowest ever asian unemployment

You’re welcome,

sincerely, ...more
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 5, 19 6:42 AM
“The unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction. If you look for a job for six months and then you give up, they consider you give up. You just give up. You go home. You say, ‘Darling, I can’t get a job.’ They consider you statistically employed. It’s not the way. But don’t worry about it because it’s going to take care of itself pretty quickly.”
— Donald Trump, remarks at an rally in Des Moines, Dec. 8, 2016
By dfree (810), hampton bays on Oct 5, 19 9:15 AM
defree, fake news. Trump may have said that, but he would deny he said it.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 9:23 AM
THE GREATEST WITCH HUNT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY !
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 5, 19 12:24 PM
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His campaign manager is a felon. His deputy campaign manager is a felon. His NSA is a felon. His foreign policy advisor is a felon. His longtime personal lawyer is a felon. His grifting kids WITH GOVERNMENT "ADVISER" JOBS (unlike Hunter Biden) and no usable skills are making MILLIONS--not $50G's-- per month trading on their name and their relationship to power. He violates every standard the US, the presidency, the State Dept., the DOJ, the rule of law has held in the world since our founding, ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 5, 19 2:02 PM
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June bug, I believe there were one , maybe two wife beaters in the mix, just to add a little balance.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 2:13 PM
Democrats have been talking impeachment since Trump decided to run and then won, they've been doing this daily his entire term so far.. they have put off actually doing things to better this country in favor of trying to get Trump out of the 2020 election because they know they will lose.

Pelosi ( speaker in name only ) can act innocent etc.. as she says she and they take no joy in doing this but we all know their true motivation and intentions.

They don't care about this country ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 5, 19 10:24 AM
What's good for the nation is bad for the Democrat Party and what's good for the Democrat Party is bad for the nation. It's hard to fathom how someone who works for a living is a Democrat these days, the Party is in favor of illegal aliens remaining here and receiving free health care, higher taxes, a weaker military and economy. Just deranged actually.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 5, 19 11:31 AM
Bigfresh, you exemplify trumpeteer derangement syndrome, keep up the good work. Maybe post a few citations to back up your biased opinion.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 11:39 AM
Just watch the last 2 Democrat presidential debates, it's ALL right there.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 5, 19 3:40 PM
Bigfresh, that’s your opinion, try again.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 3:48 PM
How is it that the party which holds a vastly more populous felony conviction and indictment club good for the country?

Oh ****, it's not.

The proof is in the proverbial pudding, and the Republican Party is the party of criminals. The numbers tend not to lie, but the President sure does...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 5, 19 8:33 PM
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Where are my Tucker Carlson fans at? Check out his latest Daily Caller editorial, here's a snippet: "Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden. Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 5, 19 11:33 AM
Congratulations Donald J Trump for being elected the 45th president of The United States of America and making all the working people that elected you proud. Carry on sir ! We have your back till the end of your term in 2024

Hail to the chief and KAG !
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 5, 19 12:20 PM
Ud, what’s kag, sounds like you got a hair ball. Cough it out.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 12:29 PM
Nobody wants to talk about how even Trump's biggest cheerleader, Tucker Carlson, agrees that Trump did something wrong?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 5, 19 12:39 PM
Rats starting to flee sinking ship. Big rush soon come.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 5, 19 12:53 PM
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Remember June when you told us you had information from your good source that sealed indictments were going to cause the rats to flee the sinking ship?

NEVER HAPPENED!

Oct 5, 19 5:00 PM appended by Po Boy
Just like Fore's Tucker Carlson lie. NEVER HAPPENED!! Why do Democrat's have to fabricate lies and falsehoods?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 5, 19 5:00 PM
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So you didn't see the column in the Daily Caller, Po? It's there for all to see: Carson agrees Trump did something wrong but disagrees with impeachment as a remedy:

"Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden. Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 5, 19 5:10 PM
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“Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea.”tucker Carlson on trumps call to the Ukraine.how could you tucker.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 8:15 PM
They seem to like ship analogies Po Boy... remember Hat Heads classic lecturing us all about how " The Donald" was going to lose the election and take Lee Zelden down with him. Remember how pompously sure he was that Hillary and Tim Bishop were guaranteed the win and the rest of us "true believers" had it all wrong ! ROTFLOL

to joe hampton:

Calm yourself, joe. The ship of state is in absolutely no danger of foundering. As we sail though quiet seas and sunny skies, we Liberals ...more
Oct 6, 19 8:44 AM appended by joe hampton
How wrong can one person be and keep up with the smugness ? How foolish some people must feel !
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Oct 6, 19 8:44 AM
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"Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden " ?

I disagree and feel it was not only within his rights but it was his duty !

How do you people square your own hypocritical thoughts is beyond me......The spying, the unmasking, the conspiring to destroy Donald Trump before and after he won the election ! This by our own government and intelligence agency's, starting under ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 6, 19 9:26 AM
Take it up with Tucker Carlson.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 6, 19 9:40 AM
Why am I not surprised. Like your Democrat brethren at so may different levels and sources Fore, you don't for a second provide ACTUAL quotes, but what someone INFERS of what is said. As we've seen, that inference is tainted beyond belief of the illusion.

"In fact, they essentially"

"In other words"

"their argument seems to be"

"The argument also suggests"



By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 5:15 PM
Lol, here's the quote from the column Tucker Carlson co-authored on the website he co-founded: "Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden. Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 6, 19 10:48 PM
So, co-authored means, it could be the other writer, right?

I'll stick with the headline banner on Tuckers show as an indicator of his thoughts... "Impreachment Insanity"
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 14, 19 3:19 PM
Sure, it's possible simply co-signed it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 14, 19 3:27 PM
Daily Caller,fake left wing news site......hmmmm
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 5:55 PM
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A Senate vote to impeach is unlikely. However, the House must perform is due diligence regarding checks and balances. There are rules, and procedures. We know how much most "right wingers" appreciate those. That said, the IG feels there is enough to merit an inquiry. It's not the fault of the Democrats, or the Senate. It's not a 'witch hunt". It's the own damn fault of the Prevaricator in Chief who must either deal with this, or stop doing what seems to amount to unscrupulous acts. Seems the obvious ...more
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 5, 19 8:28 PM
Mr Z, he’s not acting.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 5, 19 8:33 PM
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Exemplifying the depth both of his ignorance and of his derangement, Trump has now called for Senator Romney's impeachment*.

Just how bizarre must his behavior become before Senate Republicans recognize the danger he poses to our republic?


* "Trump uses vulgarity, calls for Romney’s impeachment after senator criticizes president’s China, Ukraine appeals" by Colby Itkowitz (The Washington Post, Oct. 5, 2019)
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 6, 19 7:52 AM
Exemplifying the depth both of his ignorance and of his derangement, Trump has now called for Senator Romney's impeachment*.

Just how bizarre must his behavior become before Senate Republicans recognize the danger he poses to our republic?


* "Trump uses vulgarity, calls for Romney’s impeachment after senator criticizes president’s China, Ukraine appeals" by Colby Itkowitz (The Washington Post, Oct. 5, 2019)
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 6, 19 7:52 AM
I agree. Lazily calling for the impeachment of anyone who is merely guilty of no more than not sharing your beliefs shows a unique level of delusion
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 6, 19 8:10 AM
Like i showed a few lines up... How foolish some people will feel when there fantasy world crumbles yet again.
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Oct 6, 19 8:52 AM
Perhaps it's just psychosis induced by a Sudafed addiction.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 6, 19 10:18 PM
AOC pushes national rent control and welfare for illegals in " the place to prosper ' act and "the embrace act". Insanity on display, any of our leftists care to defend this?
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 6, 19 8:40 AM
The Country Can Now See The Truth About the Bidens Hiding in Plain Sight: The bad news is that the swampy reality of the Bidens is there beneath our nose. The good news is that it’s not quite so hidden anymore, so sad, really. All of Daddy Biden's hopes, dreams, and planning were wrapped up in Beau. Then, he died and poor grinning, back-slapping, touchy Joe had to turn to Fredo Biden, the weak, drug addicted, done-nothing son, to cement the family fortunes. Beau would have had some credibility ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 6, 19 9:01 AM
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@They call me:
The Trump family was disallowed from operating ANY charity in the State of New York because they stole from a kids cancer charity. A kids cancer charity. A kids cancer charity. The son-in-law uses his position to strongarm Quatar to save his keister with billions to cover the debt he stupidly incurred. Ivanka uses her position to cop dozens of Chinese trademarks. And you're gonna' lose your stuffing over a guy with a plum job?
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 6, 19 11:04 AM
God Bless & Long Live President Donald J. Trump.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 6, 19 9:20 AM
Someone shook the tree, nuts fell everywhere
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 6, 19 9:26 AM
Have you also eaten all of those peanuts out of that can ?
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 6, 19 9:33 AM
care to address AOC's latest bit of lunacy Fred? She seems to be the face of the Democrat Party these days as witnessed by the candidates for POTUS each trying to get to the left of each other. From welfare for illegals to PC run amok to single payer health insurance it just keeps getting crazier and crazier.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 6, 19 10:16 AM
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joe said:

They seem to like ship analogies Po Boy... remember Hat Heads classic lecturing us all about how " The Donald" was going to lose the election and take Lee Zelden down with him. Remember how pompously sure he was that Hillary and Tim Bishop were guaranteed the win and the rest of us "true believers" had it all wrong ! ROTFLOL

to joe hampton:

Calm yourself, joe. The ship of state is in absolutely no danger of foundering. As we sail though quiet seas and sunny ...more
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Oct 6, 19 9:32 AM
Why are the communists failing?
One, this is all a lie. It's hard to get any traction without a shred of evidence or truth.
Two, despite 100% support from all of the 'fake news" outlets, no one believes any of this. The media and the DNC have no credibility with any thinking person.
Three, it's like the boy who cried wolf. We've heard this same story for over 3 years. Nothing the left and their minions in the media have tried has worked and their lies are seen for just that--lies.
Four, ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 9:48 AM
You think Tucker Carlson is fake news? I thought you were a fan.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 6, 19 10:38 AM
No. We KNOW the fake news about Tucker Carlson which you soak up like a dry spones, is fake news.

"In fact, they essentially"

"In other words"

"their argument seems to be"

"The argument also suggests"
Oct 6, 19 5:17 PM appended by Po Boy
*sponge
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 5:17 PM
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"Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden. Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea." - Tucker Carlson
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 6, 19 5:40 PM
Po boy, it’s sponges. Just saying.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 6, 19 6:24 PM
LMAO. Yeah, Fred, which is why my correction at 5:17 predates your civil post at 6:24.
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 8:44 PM
But did you read the column yet?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 6, 19 8:46 PM
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By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 8:50 PM
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By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 8:50 PM
Tucker Carlson said Trump did something bad ("there’s no way to spin this as a good idea") but it didn't rise to the level of impeachment. Don't call me a liar when you just can't handle the truth.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 6, 19 9:02 PM
You are quoting an article from two authors to which you place great value on the interpretatopm interpretation and inuendo of hearsay of the author you've quoted. I say again. Tucker Carlson has begin his segment for the last two weeks with the headline, ""Impeachment Insanity." You seems to fit the bill.

You ARE a LIAR when you misrepresent a source knowing full well with any credence the person you attack says just the opposite. Plain and simple.

"In fact, they essentially ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 9:24 PM
Lol, so emotional...take it up with Tucker Carlson. He's the one who co-authored it on the website he co-founded.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 6, 19 9:29 PM
Heads Will Roll… Prager: the left is not used to being investigated, Trump Is FIRST Republican to ever go on Offense! Thank God…says Brennon is going to be investagated
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 6, 19 10:18 AM
Here is the real reason the the Dem's are attempting to fabricate a reason for impeaching this duly elected president!

Former San Francisco mayor and California State Assembly speaker Willie Brown has declared that only Hillary Clinton can defeat President Donald Trump in 2020 — and that the current candidates left him with “depression.”

“Depression over the current field was swirling through my head the other day,” Brown wrote in his latest column ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 6, 19 10:41 AM
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Ud, there’s no reason to fabricate anything. Trump perfectly admits to the whole impeachment line. As to the rest of your post, really? You have a pretty good imagination there.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 6, 19 11:29 AM
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He has a good imagination ? UD was just telling you what Willie Brown said ? It was a quote not an opinion ? Are you even aware of what is going on here ?


Other breaking news that Fred wont like . . . . . Mark Zaid, the activist attorney representing the so-called whistleblower at the center of the impeachment movement targeting President Donald Trump, says he is representing a second so-called whistleblower who spoke to the Intelligence Community’s inspector general about Trump’s ...more
Oct 6, 19 1:54 PM appended by Ditch Bum
https://www.youtube .com /watch?v=keYMC3Q2kuE
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 6, 19 1:54 PM
your link to "WHAT A PIECE OF SH*T: Adam Schiff | Louder with Crowder" was broken, but once i figured it out and found it it was very informative . thank you.
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Oct 6, 19 4:19 PM
Yeah, you're right. The Prevaricator in Chief really is. If the quote fits. Wouldn't it be nice if your daddy walked in and bought 3.5 million dollars worth of poker chips to help save your casino, and then just walked away from them?

Trusting a guy with such a business sense he turned 430 million inherited dollars into billions in losses. Yep, that's the guy you want running things...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 6, 19 10:22 PM
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Ditch bum, I can read, it’s writing I have a problem with. He quoted Willie brown, it is Willie browns opinion.heres the wild imagination part .quote “Here is the real reason the the Dem's are attempting to fabricate a reason for impeaching this duly elected president!”He’s taken the quote to fit his far fetched narrative. Not even close.As to your post, more of the same nonsense. Good job, the organ grinder is playing a fast number.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 6, 19 2:21 PM
Nancy Pelosi is in the clutches of a leftwing mob,” said Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell “They finally convinced her to impeach the president.”

"All of you know your Constitution,” McConnell said. “The way that impeachment stops is with the Senate and with me as majority leader I guarantee it ! ”

Well well well ! It's about freaking' time Mr. Turtle stated publicly that Pelosi and the Dem's are batshat crazy and that impeachment will ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 6, 19 3:30 PM
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Breaking just now. From the AP:
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — As Rudy Giuliani was pushing Ukrainian officials last spring to investigate one of Donald Trump’s main political rivals, a group of individuals with ties to the president and his personal lawyer were also active in the former Soviet republic.

Their aims were profit, not politics. This circle of businessmen and Republican donors touted connections to Giuliani and Trump while trying to install new management ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 6, 19 10:20 PM
A new poll showed that 57 percent of respondents support a Justice Department probe on former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden regarding their actions in Ukraine and China.

Only 37 percent of respondents were against investigating them, according to the new poll by Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP, published on Friday.

President Trump has a DUTY to investigate political corruption. Let's find out how so many politicians became very rich while "serving the people".
TRUMP ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 6, 19 11:37 PM
BREAKING:

Trump Administration Investigates Itself, Finds No Wrongdoing, Plenty of Sudafed, Adderal, And Diethylpropion on Hand
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 6, 19 11:55 PM
The New York Times, America’s leading “liberal” paper, has published an article openly declaring war on freedom of speech.

It, and much of the left, has been at war with free speech for a while — but its new article, bluntly titled “Free Speech is Killing Us,” is its most unequivocal statement yet.

"Political Correctness Is Tyranny With Manners" ...Charlton Heston
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 7, 19 12:17 AM
@ 27dan

More determined ignorance & stupidity from a true believer.

Readers with a functioning cortex can read the article here.*

For the others (i.e. true believers), please read beyond the title.

* "Free Speech Is Killing Us
Noxious language online is causing real-world violence. What can we do about it?" by Andrew Marantz (NY Times, Oct. 4, 2019)


By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 7, 19 12:39 AM
I read it ! Still say its FUBAR
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 7, 19 5:51 AM
Pathetic Libs were all for free speech when they controlled the message. Now that they don't, they want to shut it down....and we wonder why they want to take our guns away,The only reason they can't use violence is because we refuse to be disarmed
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 7, 19 6:18 AM
Lies are not proteted speech.

Apparently someone forgot to tell the president that...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 7, 19 1:59 PM
It’s an opinion piece against hate speech,of course you are for it they call me. Dog whistles perk up your ears.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 7, 19 6:50 AM
Dog Whistles just make you **** on the floor for someone else to clean up.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 7, 19 7:40 AM
Russia and Ukraine. 2 entities that the democrats have their dirty hands in on. They get caught with their hands in the cookie jar, so what do they do? Turn it around on Trump and threaten impeachment. Trump truly is draining the swamp and has stopped the Obama gravy train and DC is upset about it. Particularly the Dems..but some rhinos too are upset that the millions of dollars that aren’t pouring into their laps anymore. The media has their hands in on it as well. MSM are all spinning their ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 7, 19 7:23 AM
"Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden. Some Republicans [like Diseased] are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea." - Tucker Carlson
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 7, 19 8:00 AM
What part of shokin was corrupt and had to go do you f****** idiots not understand
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 7, 19 2:04 PM
Spin spin spin. Nothing but false equivalency and whataboutisms. Keep trying to explain away trumps foolishness and illegalities.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 7, 19 8:08 AM
Until a vote is held, it's all theatrics. The world will never know if Pelosi had the votes to impeach. She will never hold the vote. She's bluffing. President Trump and AG Barr are not bluffing.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 7, 19 8:40 AM
Latest accusation from the steadily decomposing brain of the Toddler-in-Chief? That Nancy Pelosi ("Nervous Nancy" in his clever, presidential alliteration) is guilty of treason and should be impeached.*

Must purulent matter ooze out of his ears before the Republicans finally put country over party?



* "Power Up: Trump calls for Pelosi's impeachment as Week Three of the House inquiry begins" by Jacqueline Alemany (Washington Post, October 7, 2019.)

By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 7, 19 8:58 AM
Toddler-in-Chief, elevated prose. Nervous Nancy, not so much. Got it.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 7, 19 10:35 AM
Right. Again, it’s only wrong when republicans do it. Democrats can do whatever they want. I’m still not worried. Can’t wait for 2020 when the American people will decide what’s impeachable...not Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters. End of the day, nobody will care at the voting booth because those people will remember what the loony left and MSM has been doing to trump since 2016. As a matter of fact, I’m expecting even more votes than last time.
In the meantime, I’ll ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 7, 19 9:40 AM
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Who said it's only wrong when Republicans do it? If anything, you're saying it's wrong unless Trump does it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 7, 19 11:43 AM
Looking worse and worse for the world's biggest fraud and failure, L'il Donnie Short Fingers. What are the odds he'll resign? And soon? His bestie, Lindsey G., just burned him over his disastrous move in the middle of last night in Syria, and a federal judge in New York has ruled he must comply with the Manhattan DA's subpoena and turn over eight years of tax returns.



By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 7, 19 10:42 AM
Ever thought you'd be trolling Trump voters by propping up Lindsey Graham's pro war rhetoric?
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 7, 19 11:05 AM
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So trump voters favor us betraying our allies, siding with brutal dictators, and having blood on their hands? Or being the target of inevitable blowback? For whom will the word of the US ever matter going forward? Was this a present to Putin whose birthday is today? I can't get those sanctions lifted, but I can give you a country and more American enemies. Has Ertogan promised to look for dirt on every likely Democratic nominee? Please tell me where any of this is pro-American, and how it ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 7, 19 11:24 AM
If you have a point, be brave and make one but don't ask me for help that is never going to arrive. The questions aren't proof of anything other than your lack of confidence in your mastery of the subject.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 7, 19 12:31 PM
Willful ignorance is not a good look. Especially willful, defiant ignorance.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 7, 19 4:40 PM
President Trump is gaining support from independent and people of color voters and holding an edge with the demographic over leading Democrat challenger Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) IBD-TIPP’s October poll shows.

The IBD/TIPP Poll – taken September 26 to October 3 among 900 adults (including a “subset” of 341 Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents) – showed the president edging out Warren in support from independent voters in a hypothetical general election ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 7, 19 7:26 PM
Ud, maybe include the rest of your lifted story. Paints a slightly different angle
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 7, 19 7:44 PM
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Why would UD share something that makes Trump look bad? That would require a shred of integrity.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 7, 19 7:57 PM
It doesn’t exactly take smarts to call everyone who doesn’t share your beliefs dumb. If you should be mad at anyone its whoever has you thinking this that its looking worse and worse for Trump and that he would ever consider resigning. Lets not even get into your fascist party’s use of the most despicable crowd of our federal complex, the IRS, as a potential weapon against your political opponents Thats because you can’t beat him fairly.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 8, 19 5:55 AM
Even flow, very ironic. Just read your post about the art show of the woman in the bath tub, you didn’t exactly agree with it, called people freaks. Nice to know you are consistent.keep deflecting ironic one, you are terrible at it but entertaining.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 8, 19 6:08 AM
If you need more proof of that , just look what the DNC, Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile did to Mr. Sanders last election !

How come Adam Schiff, Robert Mueller or anyone in the media investigates THAT corruption and election medaling ??? HOW COME ???
By local 84 (349), riverhead on Oct 8, 19 9:06 AM
Because a party having a preference for one candidate over another isn't a crime. Don't like it? Start your own party!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 8, 19 9:21 AM
i don't know have you ever considered allowing a fair election process, why is it the party that never stops talking about the 2016 election hacking, seems perfectly ok with google, face book and twitter shadow banning, media bias, providing answers to debates to there favorite candidates and super delegates ? it seems you not only have distrust for red states ability to decide the election of a president, but you also have just as little faith in your own base in choosing there candidate to run ...more
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Oct 8, 19 12:36 PM
Maybe because you are talking about completely different subjects? As to talking about the 2016 election, trump constantly talks about it, crowd size ecetera.your party is the one trying to make it more difficult to vote, by bringing up tired conspiracy talking points. How about canceling primaries in some states, that’s novel.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 8, 19 12:43 PM
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Just heard Jonesboro County, Ga. wants to move its SOLE polling place from a museum to a police station. Bet you're OK with that now, right Hon?
And that "media bias"? Ever hear of Fox or Breitbart or Sinclair?
Oh, and Erin dear, "sad" is when your dog dies.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 8, 19 2:06 PM
stop being such a condescending smart - - - and answer the points i raised

why is it the party that never stops talking about the 2016 election hacking, seems perfectly ok with google, face book and twitter shadow banning, media bias, providing answers to debates to there favorite candidates and super delegates ?

why don't you just let the process play out and trust the voters to decide the out come!

giving hillary the questions before the debate, super delegates what ...more
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Oct 8, 19 2:34 PM
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Its becuase they are convinced they know what is good for everyone Erin... LOL... This entire Ukraine fairytale is simply another example of the deep-seated psychosis inherent to the Democrat Socialist Party. These Democrat Socialists are willing to lie, steal, and cheat to support their ongoing effort to subvert the will of the electorate. The left in the U.S. views the middle class electorate as proletarian who need to be ruled with an iron fist. And when the Democrats fail once again, this time ...more
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Oct 8, 19 2:45 PM
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You sound like the only one talking about the 2016 election, Erin.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 8, 19 2:46 PM
Joe, it's not Democrats' fault that Trump was "on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent" in Tucker Carlson's own words.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 8, 19 2:48 PM
Some people don't like other people because they are young, happily married and wear lip stick. Don't let it bother you Erin like Joe says, it is a "Witch" hunt after all .
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 8, 19 2:54 PM
Trump is not a quitter.1 thing u should have learned by now-if nothing else.KAG Trump 2020!
By Taz (705), East Quogue on Oct 7, 19 10:50 AM
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Stephen Miller, President Trump senior advisor, yesterday;

"The attempt at impeachment is best understood as a legislative coup against a democratically elected president, and the radical leftists in Congress are working arm-in-arm with the deep state saboteurs and their allies in the media in order to try to effectuate this illegal coup.”

Hear, hear!
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The “intelligence community” is the heart of the swamp and needs to be torn out by the roots.We need military tribunals.

Don’t worry Mr Trump, most of the 62 million voters have your back.These deep State plants are not even whistle blowers. Whistle blower is the new code word for leaker.... Plain and simple. It is creatively repackaged to make traitors look like Heroes.

Some of the American public will fall for it as they continue lining up 'expendable parasites' ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 7, 19 7:21 PM
“We need military tribunals “. Yeah, that’s normal dinner time talk. You should probably be on a watch list.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 7, 19 7:40 PM
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Mike Pence used campaign funds to pay his mortgage — and it cost him an election

By Rosalind S. Helderman ,
Tom Hamburger and
Alice CritesJuly 15, 2016
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 7, 19 8:13 PM
Impeachment tells the people, "Your vote doesn't count. We know better than you do." It is, without a doubt, the most elitist move Washington DC can take against the voting citizens of this Republic.The NWO & the traitors of the 3 letter Agencies will not win this
Battle for the Republic.

Obama calls me a Clinger.
Hillary calls me a Deplorable.
Muslims call me an Infidel.
Democrats call me a Racist.
Trump calls me an American.
Oct 7, 19 8:41 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
And so the impeachment Boomerang has come back and smacked all the Democrats in the back of the head. It seems these backfires are coming quicker and quicker.
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 7, 19 8:41 PM
Don't like it? Vote the bums out!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 7, 19 9:51 PM
That has to be the stupidest thing I've read in a VERY long time.

Which dumb**** are you parroting?
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 8, 19 1:33 AM
KANYE WEST SLAMS SOCIAL MEDIA MIND CONTROL, DEFENDS TRUMP SUPPORT IN SATURDAY SERMON
Says Republicans freed slaves, bashes Democrat identity politics

Super star Kanye West criticized social media as a tool of manipulation and defended his support for President Donald Trump during a worship service Saturday.

Close to 10,000 people attended the event, with many waiting since 4 a.m. to see Kanye, who took to the stage shortly after 1:30 p.m. In photos from Deseret News
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 8, 19 1:55 AM
In more news , 2 ducks crossed the road by Agawam.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 8, 19 5:21 AM
You'd think SOMEBODY, any one of them, would've learned by now that their plantation is getting smaller and smaller. “These people don’t know you like that,” he told them. “Social media is designed to make you think slower… They want to slow you down and control you.”
West then turned to politics, praising Abraham Lincoln as a member of the Republican party which freed the slaves, before going on to reject the unspoken doctrine prohibiting him from supporting ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 8, 19 8:33 AM
Rod Rosenstein even DID want to wear a wire for the 25th amendment. He has denied this.

He should be indited for a coup attempt on a newly elected President.

He is a TRAITOR.


Judicial Watch Uncovers Rosenstein Email to Mueller: ‘The Boss’ Doesn’t Know We’re Talking...Rod Rosenstein, formerly the deputy attorney general, is a key figure in enabling, at a minimum, the Deep State’s seditious attacks on President Trump.

More proof ...more
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Oct 8, 19 8:26 AM
To day Bernie Sanders announced the he will be disqualified from running for president, Bernie tweeted @Bernie Sanders: "Maybe I'm old fashioned. But I believe we should have a president who believes in the United States Constitution." Rotfl Bernie must be talking about the part of the Constitution that says ......

~ " We the People of the United States. in Order to form a more perfect (communist) Union, establish (politically correct social) Justice,insure domestic Tranquility (&safe spaces), ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 8, 19 8:52 AM
Bernie Sanders is running for president to defeat Donald Trump and transform our economy to one that works for all of us and not just the one percent.

By local 84 (349), riverhead on Oct 8, 19 8:59 AM
I disagree fundamentally with Bernie's plan to eliminate the private insurance industry.

Also nobody's going to vote for a 78 year old man who just had a heart attack.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 8, 19 9:05 AM
To day Bernie Sanders announced the he will be disqualified from running for president, Bernie tweeted @Bernie Sanders: "Maybe I'm old fashioned. But I believe we should have a president who believes in the United States Constitution." Rotfl Bernie must be talking about the part of the Constitution that says ......

~ " We the People of the United States. in Order to form a more perfect (communist) Union, establish (politically correct social) Justice,insure domestic Tranquility (&safe spaces), ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 8, 19 8:52 AM
Isn't it great that Agent Orange used our resources and men, especially those who gave their last full measure, to help clear Syria of ISIS. Now his bromance master and the brutal Assad can just waltz in to assume ownership. How considerate of General Blowhard Bonespurs to be so conciliatory. Typical of his c.s. mentality of bullies.
By Mets fan (1493), Southampton on Oct 8, 19 9:12 AM
Oopsy, Video: James Clapper Admits Obama Made Deep State Officials Spy on Trump
Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper admitted on CNN that former President Obama had ordered the CIA and FBI to spy on the Trump campaign leading up to the 2016 election.
In a CNN appearance on Monday, host Jim Sciutto asked Clapper if he’s concerned that Attorney General William Barr and U.S. attorney John Durham will find wrongdoing by intelligence officials like him.
“The ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 8, 19 3:04 PM
Can you say double standard ?
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 8, 19 3:11 PM
What's the double standard? Did Obama ask a foreign leader for dirt on Trump? That would look pretty bad...but Obama didn't run against Trump so it wasn't in connection with an election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 8, 19 3:14 PM
"double standard"?

Art thou daft? Take a GOOD look at the (alleged ;-)) malefactors occupying Trump properties over the decades, and tell the world with a straight face there was no cause. Woof...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 8, 19 11:22 PM
This just in ......... President Trump is going to win again next year !
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 8, 19 2:57 PM
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-Cory Booker called for Trump rallies to be cancelled
-Kamala Harris called for Trump’s twitter to be suspended
-Beto O’Rourke called on tech companies to censor content
-Julian Castro campaign posted target list of Trump supporters

Silence the opposition. This is LIBERAL FASCISM!!



The left wing elites:
-Hates walls——lives in gated communities
- Detests school choice——sends their kids to private schools
-Protests ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 8, 19 3:03 PM
The American people will see through all the Democrat Party BRAVO SIERRA and re-elect President Trump ,the alt left will riot in the streets and be put down hard.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 8, 19 4:26 PM
Historically incumbents have an advantage, but no president in history has so brazenly asked foreign nationals for help in an election and the electorate may not forget so easily.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 8, 19 4:31 PM
Agree fore. Unfortunately trumps history is just as bad as the future with trump
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 8, 19 4:50 PM
Bigfresh, read some of the posts by your fellow right wing posters. They are the ones talking of armed uprisings, not the left. Congressional oversight is a legitimate course of action. Impeachment could follow. Left is playing by the rules, no talk of armed uprisings.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 8, 19 4:31 PM
Just putting this up. It’s kinda embarrassing when someone corrects my crappy grammar. After reading this article, I feel a little better
Daniel Drake's Proofreading the President:

"Trump has good reason to loathe and fear Schiff: the past two weeks have found the former in perhaps the most vulnerable spot of his term, as impeachment looms—following from a CIA whistleblower’s allegations that Trump tried to strong-arm Ukrainian interference in the 2020 elections—and ...more
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 8, 19 4:54 PM
Why don’t you commit to improving your literacy?
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 19 5:49 PM
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Working on it ,even flow.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 8, 19 9:44 PM
Just when you thought you’ve heard it all from the lefty loons:

Rep. HAlexandria Ocasio-Cortez said the U.S. needs to start a "conversation about whether to abolish prisons in the country" to disentangle itself from a history of "American apartheid."

"Mass incarceration is our American reality. It is a system whose logic evolved from the same lineage as Jim Crow, American apartheid, & slavery," the New York Democrat said Monday on Twitter. "To end it, we have to change. That ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 8, 19 10:03 PM
Did you ever work a service job? I guess we can dismiss all your opinions as well.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 8, 19 10:51 PM
Don't you even think she remotely has a point?

Look at our prisons. Highest per capita rate in the "free" world.


"Darwinian man, though well-behaved, at best is only a monkey shaved."

~ Sir William Schwenck Gilbert
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 8, 19 11:06 PM
"The conditions were so bad, she too had drank out of toilets," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. "A cage is a cage is a cage. And humans don’t belong in them."

Yes...they do. You know why? Because some inmates aren’t human. They’re animals. Someone who molests or rapes an 8 year old boy or girl belongs in a cage. Someone who kills another in cold blood without provocation belongs in a cage. And they certainly don’t need to be released and set free because some bartender thinks ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 9, 19 6:27 AM
Diseased, possibly one of your most vile posts. Project much?
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 7:20 AM
Diseased: if it's ignorant to judge you for what jobs you've held, why are you doing the same to AOC?

Now I'm sure you've never worked in the service industry because you can dish it out but you can't take it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 9:39 AM
Dems for 3 yrs- IMPEACHMENT!!! NOW!!

Trump yesterday- enough talk, do it.

Dems today- Hey, whats the rush?
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 9, 19 6:52 AM
Because its about projecting a negative image on a popular president they are full of S
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 9, 19 7:58 AM
The whistle blower admitted under oath, yesterday, that he had a professional relationship with a democratic presidential candidate. In other words, the President was right- he’s partisan and coached by schiff who lied about it. Check Please! We’re done here.
By even fIow (43), Westhampton Beach on Oct 9, 19 7:13 AM
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You left this out ........ However, Atkinson appeared to regard those concerns as relatively minor, concluding that “such evidence did not change my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern ‘appears credible'” and should be shared with members of Congress.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 7:24 AM
Democrat Impeachment Inquiry Becomes‘Clown Show’

The impeachment inquiry process so far is akin to a “kangaroo court” led by Democrats already convinced Trump is guilty,

Fast and Furious was done behind closed doors. Obamacare was done behind closed doors The IRS attack on conservatives was done behind closed doors. Benghazi was done behind closed doors. The Iran Nuclear Deal was done behind closed doors. Her private email exoneration was done behind closed ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 9, 19 8:02 AM
Here’s a post from TPM backing up your intellectual congressman.....

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), elected representative and lawyer, is apparently under the impression that the expression “kangaroo court” is named after the mustachioed eponymous character of a ’50s children’s TV show, “Captain Kangaroo.”

After President Donald Trump claimed the House’s planned deposition with Ambassador Gordon Sondland would be a “totally compromised ...more
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 8:47 AM
Democrats HATE transparency- like a vampire hates light. Typical criminals they do all their bidding behind closed doors where noone can see! These dems are out of their minds. They think they can remove Trump from office using secret witnesses. No way in hell.
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 9, 19 8:04 AM
Lol, remember when Hillary was a witness for hours during the Benghazi hearings but Trump refused to be interviewed by Mueller?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 9:41 AM
Same witch hunt bub
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 9, 19 11:31 AM
Thanks for admitting Benghazi was a witch hunt. I'm just pointing out what transparency looks like in contrast with Trump's refusal to cooperate.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 11:33 AM
The Democrat Party IS the Communist Party.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 9, 19 8:34 AM
Hillary Clinton is delusional. She'd lose even bigger this time around. She's lucky she's not in jail. She should be. First off watching Hillary off Biden and the rest of the circus tent clowns would be enormously entertaining.

Then watching Trump crush her again and reducing the Democratic Party Media Propaganda Ministry into puddle of melted snowflake tears sequel would be the grandest entertainment we had since the 2016 ,

Lyin' Crooked Cankles will go down in flames again and ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 9, 19 9:06 AM
That brings back all those good memories, Micheal Flynn leading the “ lock her up “ chant.How’s that working out for him ?
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 9:33 AM
Trump's plan working exactly as advertised. Great news:

"The Turkish Armed Forces, together with the Syrian National Army, just launched Operation Peace Spring," Erdogan tweeted. "Our mission is to prevent the creation of a terror corridor across our southern border, and to bring peace to the area."
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 9, 19 9:47 AM
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You realize Erdogan is an Islamist, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 10:00 AM
@UD et. al: About those "secret witnesses" y'all are so upset about--- Impeachment starts in the House of Representatives which is akin to a grand jury where testimony is always away from the accused. IN SECRET. Once deemed credible and the case is ready, it goes to a court --in the case of impeachment to the Senate--for a public trial.
How about educating yourselves on the way our judicial system works instead of falling prey to the absurdities being thrown against walls by ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 9, 19 11:04 AM
Impeachment starts with a vote on the house floor like it or not ...... until then shut your pie hole, this is why most commies major in Constitutional law, to find ways to destroy it!
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 9, 19 11:35 AM
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I like the tacit admission that June knows the constitution better than you do.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 11:40 AM
OMG

Seems like the Deep State are all blowing each other's whistles........

Report: Ukraine ‘Whistleblower’ Had ‘Professional Relationship’ with 2020 Democrat

•Not Only a Democrat
•Not Only a Fan of 2020 Dem
•‘Professional Relationship’ with Preferred Candidate

CNN’s Tapper Exposed as Hack — Again

The intelligence community inspector general testified Friday to congressional investigators ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 9, 19 11:29 AM
The House doesn't have the authority to issue subpoenas in this matter until they formally vote to start impeachment proceedings. What's the holdup, hmmmmm?
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 9, 19 11:29 AM
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Lol, yes they do. Republicans changed the committee rules last time they controlled the House. Glad they've come to regret.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 11:32 AM
We have impeachment witnesses testifying in secret. We have transcripts of that testimony kept secret. We have Democrats refusing to allow Republicans to question a secret (fake) whistleblower. We have selective leaks of this secret testimony. We have the ringleader behind all of this, Schiff for brains, secretly conspiring with the fake whistleblower. And all of this is occurring within the framework of overturning a presidential election. There is no way a legitimate media would ever be okay with ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 9, 19 11:42 AM
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Is there a constitutional requirement that the process be different?

Let's ask June since you admitted she knows the constitution better than you do.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 11:51 AM
exactly mr. dan, good post
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Oct 9, 19 12:00 PM
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Nothing in the Constitution requires the House to authorize impeachment inquiries. A formal article of impeachment is all it mentions. Doug Collins himself has admitted this.
No full House authorization has been mandatory in the past. None for whether Justice Douglas had committed impeachable offenses, or the head of the IRS in '16, or in the late '80's when 3 federal judges were impeached, convicted, and removed from office. Additionally, a lawsuit that challenged the Senate ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 9, 19 12:41 PM
@bigfresh:
"The House doesn't have the authority to issue subpoenas in this matter until they formally vote to start impeachment proceedings."
WRONG.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 9, 19 12:45 PM
don't have the votes huh
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Oct 9, 19 12:46 PM
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Why impeach one who can impeach himself?
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 10, 19 12:05 AM
Spin spin spin. Very entertaining. Here’s a little quote from one of the major trump sycophants, Lindsey Graham........ Article Three of impeachment against Richard Nixon, the Article was based on the idea that Richard Nixon as president failed to comply with subpoenas of Congress," Graham says in the clip.

"Congress was going through its oversight function to provide oversight of the president. When asked for information Richard Nixon chose not to comply and the Congress back in ...more
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 12:11 PM
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Trump would love for his legitimate and legally required impeachment inquiry to be understood as illegitimate. One way to create that understanding is to attack the process (it's a scam, a ploy, a witch-hunt) and the people who are leading it (many ad hominem attacks).
Framing the legitimate and legally required impeachment inquiry as a "war" activates and reinforces the "us versus them" polarization strategy that Trump has used so successfully since 2015. But, it does more than ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 9, 19 12:53 PM
In a bombshell 1,200-word New York Times op-ed, investigative author Peter Schweizer called for the federal government to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden’s dealings in Ukraine and China after laying out a devastating fact-pattern of transactions.

The evidence is there. The evidence has always been there, it is the swamp dwellers in both parties that just refuse to see it because exposing the enormous amount of corruption in DC will destroy a lot of careers.

Meanwhile in ...more
Oct 9, 19 1:16 PM appended by joe hampton
When you're sane, the insane look crazy. But, when you're insane, the sane look insane.. . What do you think about that theory June ?
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Oct 9, 19 1:16 PM
Joe, why didn’t you print the whole article? If someone relied on your post, it’s very disingenuous. Slick bit of editing, bottom line it said it was all legal. Who knew.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 2:05 PM
Here's a little tidbit. WWII in Syria was over in 1941.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 10, 19 12:54 AM
During an interview aired on Tuesday’s broadcast of “PBS News Hour,” former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton remarked that maybe there should be a “rematch” between her and President Trump, and “obviously, I can beat him again.”

How about first you return the silverware you walked of with from the White House.

It would be priceless if she ran again
and an HONEST FBI and DOJ investigated her
and LOCKED HER UP
and the stupid ...more
By joe hampton (3431), The Hamptons on Oct 9, 19 1:21 PM
She is a charlatan , cheat and liar , a perfect Democrat candidate.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 9, 19 2:10 PM
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She got more votes last time and Republicans regret their vote more everyday.

I think she'd win too.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 2:32 PM
Bigfresh, you just described trump, you forgot low moral loser
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 5:20 PM
@bigfresh:
Charlatan--a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill; a fraud. Cite a single instance where Hillary Clinton, a Yale educated lawyer who as a young lawyer worked on Nixon's impeachment, worked for years on behalf of children, served 2 terms as First Lady of the United States, represented NYS in the US Senate, falsely claimed to have the requirements to serve in a single one of these capacities.
On the other hand, your cult leader has done ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 9, 19 8:59 PM
@bigfresh:
Charlatan--a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill; a fraud. Cite a single instance where Hillary Clinton, a Yale educated lawyer who as a young lawyer worked on Nixon's impeachment, worked for years on behalf of children, served 2 terms as First Lady of the United States, represented NYS in the US Senate, falsely claimed to have the requirements to serve in a single one of these capacities.
On the other hand, your cult leader has done ...more
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 9, 19 8:59 PM

blus·ter (bləstər)
verb

talk in a loud, aggressive, or indignant way with little effect.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 10, 19 12:11 AM
I can explain the entire democrat coup attempt in 2 words. It’s quite simple actually:


JOHN DURHAM

By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 9, 19 5:15 PM
I can explain the entire Republican response to trumps impeachment investigation, b_ _ _ s_ _ _. Very simple actually.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 5:24 PM
... seems more like a gfy from where I'm sitting.
By loading... (588), quiogue on Oct 9, 19 6:34 PM
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And neither response is a defense to soliciting an investigation into a political opponent from a foreign national.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 9:34 PM
Loading, it’s 2 word, not 3
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 9, 19 9:33 PM
My bad...please drop the "g"
By loading... (588), quiogue on Oct 10, 19 3:04 PM
No problem, you too!
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 10, 19 3:29 PM
The "whistleblower" (illegal leaker) gambit has failed, and failed bigly.

dems: we're gonna impeach you!
PDJT: For what?
dems: Impeachable stuffs!
PDJT: Ok, go ahead.
dems: we got proofs, we got proofs!
PDJT: You mean a disgruntled TDS'r who used to work for a democrat presidential candidate?
dems: Two of them!!! Maybe more!!!
PDJT: Their accounts don't match the transcript.
dems: Doesn't matter, failing to cooperate with your own impeachment is impeachable!!!
PDJT: ...more
By Cooper's Hawk (9), Southamton on Oct 9, 19 9:53 PM
"The day Richard Nixon failed to answer that subpoena is the day that he was subject to impeachment because he took the power of Congress away from Congress and became the judge and jury." Lindsey Graham
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 9, 19 10:44 PM
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They squawk like it's a drumhead trial, LOL
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 10, 19 12:01 AM
It was 42% in July? In July? Post-Mueller report and post-collapse of the "Russia Collusion" hoax it was 42%

Why?

Because the 42% is built-in. It represents the majority of Democrats who despise Trump and cannot accept the fact that he beat their Hillary, so they want him out...and the reason doesn't matter. If it takes Adam Schiff creating and reading a fake phone call transcript, that's perfectly fine. For them the end justifies the means.
By Cooper's Hawk (9), Southampton on Oct 10, 19 8:44 AM
Charge every single leaker with espionage.

Amidst a battle between the President of the United States and the Intelligence Community that has sparked formal impeachment proceedings against the president by Democrats in Congress, federal law enforcement officials have formally charged one intelligence community official with leaking highly classified information to the media.
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 10, 19 12:16 AM
One can only hope that yet MORE of Trump's criminal conduct is uncovered since it engenders such entertaining responses by the true believers on this forum.

Whether demented fulminations about the the " conspiracy" by Everyone-Who-Doesn't-Express-Undiluted-Admiration-For-The-Donald or puerile misconstructions of reality that expose their authors' infantilism - - - those posts are always good for a a chuckle.

It's essential that citizens find amusement where they can in Trump's ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 10, 19 12:18 AM
At sometime you must ask yourself a question friendo,

When do you stop playing that same old tired tune?

"We can all look forward with abiding enjoyment to Right-Wing "weeping and gnashing of teeth" becoming melodically louder and louder - - - and climaxing on Nov. 8 with an epochal Republican loss that will be, to the rational, like being stage front at "Desert Trip 2016".

....weeping and gnashing of whose teeth?...." HHS a long time ago
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 10, 19 12:25 AM
Meanwhile...

History threatened as Turkey prepares to flood ancient city
Residents of Hasankeyf are apprehensive as the deadline to evacuate their 12,000-year-old village looms.

by Andrew Wilks
7 Oct 2019
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 10, 19 12:26 AM
Describing itself as the "answer to Facebook and Twitter censoring Christians, conservatives and liberty," a new social-media platform called USA.Life launched. Many users are signing up.

Founder and CEO Steven Andrew said he decided to use his Silicon Valley tech leadership experience to launch USA.Life after he saw Facebook block millions of people from getting his posts.

Advertisement - story continues below

Andrew believes Facebook lied to Congress about being "a platform ...more
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 10, 19 7:19 AM
Sounds like a great new site, should be interesting.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 10, 19 7:38 AM
To hell with You tube and its censoring and shadow banning ! check out

BIT CHUTE
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 10, 19 7:51 AM
I also use Bitchute its awesome, Steven Crowder, The Ron Gibson Channel, Next News Network, Paul Joseph Watson,Milo, The David Knight Show, Lauren Southern, Candace Owens, Mark Dice all here without the NANNY STATE CENSORSHIP
By They call me (2799), southampton on Oct 10, 19 8:35 AM
And just like that....liberals care about the Kurds.

“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face”—Thomas Sowell
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 10, 19 11:23 AM
And your cult leader once "cared".
"Don't forget that's their territory. We have to help them… Tens of thousands of Kurds died fighting ISIS. They died for us and with us and for themselves… but they're great people…I don't forget."
-----donald j. trump Sept. 2018
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 10, 19 12:36 PM
Diseased, thanks for the quote. If it was a pot, it wouldn’t hold water.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 10, 19 11:39 AM
Yes, I know he once cared. Did I say anywhere on my post that I agreed with Trump’s move? Nope. Actually, I 100% disagree with the move. What I said was liberals couldn’t have cared less about the Kurds the day before Trump made his announcement.....and now they “do”. Meanwhile, the candidate that you wanted to win, who ran on equality for all and women empowerment etc... was secretly trying to get Weinstein off the hook before the case blew wide open and started the #metoo ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 10, 19 12:45 PM
What evidence is there that "liberals couldn’t have cared less about the Kurds the day before"?

Didn't our cooperation with Syrian Kurds START with Democratic administration?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 10, 19 12:58 PM
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@Disease: No, you didn't say you "agreed with trump's move", but you also don't cop to YOUR hypocrisy. Pays to look in the mirror, Disease, lest you have a wish to look like a fool.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 10, 19 1:54 PM
Diseased, day in and day out the same nonsense. I’m surprised you didn’t offer a Youtube vid as proof. Liberals, nothing but puke, very nice. You should get a job painting houses, with that broad brush , you’d make a fortune.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 10, 19 1:12 PM
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Trump on picture of Biden with unindicted Ukraine gas executive: "this PROVES Biden is crooked!"

Trump on picture of himself with indicted Giuliani associates: "that doesn't prove anything!"

Trumpets: Please show me your best spin, I need a good laugh.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 10, 19 10:39 PM
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ANIMALS !!!

Left-wing Rioters Attack Trump Supporters Leaving Minneapolis Rally

MAGA Hats Burned, Protester Waves Communist Flag

Left-wing rioters attacked supporters of President Donald Trump leaving a rally in Minneapolis, Minnesota on Thursday evening — assaulting them in groups, setting fire to pro-Trump hats, and attacking the police.

Oct 11, 19 7:30 AM appended by 27dan
Antifa needs to be officially classified as a terrorist group.Antifa, the LGBT and other leftist groups are communists. Their goal is the destruction of western civilization. Antifa was waving communist flags and attacking people with MAGA hats.
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 11, 19 7:30 AM
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It would not surprise me to find that the Mayor paid for these rioters. BTW: They are not "protesters", they are the SA brown shirt socialist arm of the Democrats.
TRUMP 2020!

Great Great Great Rally. Tremendous Energy !! 20,000 confirmed inside 25,000 + outside

no porta Porty's, no air conditioning, mayor blocks off duty police from wearing there uniforms , NO ONE CARES THEY STAYED ANYWAY TRUMP 2020 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 11, 19 7:44 AM appended by Ditch Bum
Shattered attendance record !!!!!!!!!!! KAG
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 11, 19 7:44 AM
@ Ditch Bum

Quote:

"Shattered attendance record !!!!!!!!!!! KAG"
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A lie* (of course.)



* "Fact check: President Trump’s Minneapolis rally speech" by
Briana Bierschbach and Brian Bakst (MPR, October 10 2019)
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 11, 19 12:23 PM
*Sigh

What he said: “So we have 20,000-plus inside. We set a new record. And we have 25,000 people we still love outside. And close to 100,000 people wanted to come tonight.”

The facts: The Target Center can hold roughly 20,000 people, matching what a fire department official said was the capacity for Thursday’s rally. Images of the rally showed some empty seats in the upper portion of the arena, but many people stood on the floor of Target Center. That makes ...more
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 12, 19 7:13 PM
@ Po Boy

Your mendacity is as tedious as it is predictable, Po Boy.

It may be that someday you will pen a reply that is neither lie nor misdirection - - - but today is not that day.

As the article* (in the section that you omitted) noted:

"Even if the crowd did top 20,000, that’s happened before at Target Center. A 2017 Timberwolves-Warriors basketball game drew 20,412 and a 2005 U2 concert packed in 20,200."

(Sure, we COULD talk about things that ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 13, 19 7:44 AM
ANIMALS!!

According to the Government Accountability Office of the United States, 73% of violent extremist incidents that resulted in deaths since September 12, 2001 were caused by right-wing extremist groups.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 15, 19 8:14 PM
Things that make you go hmmm:

What do Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and Mitt Romney all have in common?

They ALL have children working for Ukrainian Gas companies.
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 11, 19 8:57 AM
False.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 11, 19 9:20 AM
Do our resident leftists here condemn ANTIFA and there actions?
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 11, 19 10:19 AM
On a regular basis, but you love to bring it up anyway.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 11, 19 11:11 AM
But where is Hunter Biden???

Hahaa
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 11, 19 11:04 AM
Walking free because there's no probable cause he committed a crime.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 11, 19 11:10 AM
That's what he's doing.

The question remains....

Where is Hunter?
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 12, 19 7:02 PM
Wherever he wants to be. Why do you care so much?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 12, 19 7:38 PM
So nobody wants to talk about Trump's picture with Giuliani's indicted associates? The ones arrested at the airport with a one-way ticket out of dodge?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 11, 19 11:12 AM
Fore, remember last week diseases breathless post of a Biden picture. It was Biden his son and some Ukraine official.how come no mention of trumps pic with the recently indicted partner of Rudy? Odd huh?
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 11, 19 11:31 AM
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I'm unsurprised that Diseased doesn't want to talk about Trump's picture with Giuliani's indicted associates after all the noise they made about Biden's picture with his son's boss or something.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 11, 19 12:14 PM
Or Lev Parnas attending the invite only 2016 election night party as a guest of The Donald.
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 12, 19 5:20 PM
Just the beneficiary of nepotism at it's most base, Creepy Joe is the criminal in this case.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 11, 19 11:12 AM
What crime do you think Joe Biden committed?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 11, 19 11:21 AM
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ivanka and jared installed in the White House without a single credential raking in millions along with da' boyz, hans and franz, and you're complaining about nepotism?
Oct 11, 19 11:31 AM appended by June Bug
(Biden's) nepotism.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 11, 19 11:31 AM
Bigfresh, keep the whataboutism ball rolling. You gotta blame someone for trumps criminal behavior. Keep up the right wing foolishness, very entertaining
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 11, 19 11:33 AM
"criminal behavior"? Some proof of your wild assertion would be nice Freddy.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 12, 19 4:57 PM
If you look up nepotism in the dictionary, you see Trump's picture. Willfully blind is preferable to the right wing suckers.

“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.”

~ Frédéric Bastiat
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 12, 19 5:03 PM
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Bigfresh, no chance. In all the time I’ve been on here you have provided 0 citations to back up your accusations. On the other hand I’ve provided many to you. So, sorry
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 12, 19 5:14 PM
Bigfresh, no chance. In all the time I’ve been on here you have provided 0 citations to back up your accusations. On the other hand I’ve provided many to you. So, sorry
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 12, 19 5:14 PM
Here’s one anyway. Which you won’t look up or read, so this is pointless.....from Vice News
Here Are 7 Crimes Trump Might Have Committed in This Ukraine Scandal
Heres one weak example
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 12, 19 5:18 PM
We're still waiting for your proof of Joe Biden's crimes, fresh.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 12, 19 7:22 PM
The pervert was caught on tape bragging about how he leveraged aid funds in return for a Ukrainian prosecutor's firing. A quid pro quo using OUR money.
By bigfresh (4596), north sea on Oct 13, 19 11:47 AM
That's called conducting foreign policy. It also wasn't in connection with an election, unlike Trump's request for an investigation into Biden.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 13, 19 11:54 AM
Uh, try again, fresh. Learn the difference between state craft and cooking up a scheme using every lever of government --including the State Dept. and the DOJ for christ sake--, multiple countries and shady native and foreign characters, and OUR money to benefit trump's political fortunes. Never mind that that money was designated by Congress specifically as aid for a desperate, vulnerable ally. You need to change your monicker. bigstink has a nice ring to it.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 13, 19 12:34 PM
My favorite part of the Biden conspiracy theorists is that they don't want to talk about why the Obama administration and many other countries wanted the prosecutor fired...because he was soft on corruption!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 13, 19 1:22 PM
Yeah, and think about the lengths the trump crime syndicate has gone to in their desperation to make up dirt on Biden--not dig up, because there is none. Then think about what a 30-minute phone call has wrought.
By June Bug (2612), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 13, 19 1:37 PM
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Wait, I thought the "pervert on tape" has a track record of misbehavior towards women and "grabs them by the p****"...
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 15, 19 8:08 PM
Is Trumpty Dumpty teetering on the wall, just before taking a big fall?

Rome is burning!

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (300), Sag Harbor on Oct 11, 19 12:21 PM
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Fox's Shepard Smith quits abruptly.

Like rats abandoning a sinking ship!

How is that Kool-aid tasting?

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!

By Nero (300), Sag Harbor on Oct 11, 19 4:18 PM
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...good riddance
Oct 12, 19 6:26 PM appended by loading...
He shlepped right after a meeting between Barr and Murdoch. Coincidence? ...oh, and Nero, my beverage tastes like a medium roast Columbian.
By loading... (588), quiogue on Oct 11, 19 6:26 PM
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THANK GOD! FINALLY!! now Chris Wallace and Juan . He'll be at CNN with Lemon before long! That's where he belongs! Shep was one of the biggest liars on television.
The other ones are Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, and Anderson Cooper.
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 11, 19 7:35 PM
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Dog pile is building momentum
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 11, 19 7:40 PM
Fox News won its 71st straight quarter...CRUSHING CNN and MSNBC. Pretty sure Shep Smith’s numbers didn’t help that cause. His replacement will though. Who remembers the Obama interview with Letterman when he said something along lines of “If you watch Fox News you’re on a different planet than someone that watches NPR” ? Obama doesn’t like Fox News because Obama doesn’t like the truth. The liberals from the rest of MSM followed suit and did and sold everything ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (641), Riverhead on Oct 12, 19 3:52 PM
FOX's file

This scorecard shows the ratings for statements made on air by Fox, Fox News and Fox Business personalities and their pundit guests. Rulings do not include statements made on air by politicians or paid spokespeople.

Statements made on FOX

True (10%) (17)
Mostly True (11%) (20)
Half True (19%) (33)
Mostly False (22%) (38)
False (29%) (50)
Pants on Fire (10%) (17)
By Mr. Z (11704), North Sea on Oct 12, 19 5:48 PM
JON VOIGHT

"The word progressive ... was created as a substitute for ‘communist’."

— PunditFact on Thursday, October 22nd, 2015
By Po Boy (5128), Water Mill on Oct 12, 19 6:59 PM
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Quoting John voight? I’m gonna have to dig up some Boo Harris quotes, he has as much relevance as Jon voight.
By Fred s (3207), Southampton on Oct 12, 19 7:48 PM
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Another man of honor finds it impossible to continue to serve an organization that (now - - - without the exception that HE was) promotes nothing but lies and misinformation.

Good luck, Shep! Your career is a small price to pay to remove yourself from the noxious pigsty that is FoxNews.

You have our respect.

By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 12, 19 4:07 PM
As you know, he doesn't read these comments, so this is no more than achingly transparent virtue signaling. For someone who complains that reading comments is a waste of your time, typing them doesn't seem to be a much better.
By even flow (996), East Hampton on Oct 12, 19 4:18 PM
@ even flow

Quote:

"For someone who complains that reading comments is a waste of your time ... "
----------------------------

Oopsie! Another true believer lie.

As you are aware, I never said that reading EVERYONE'S comments was a waste of time, just YOURS in a particular thread in which you did nothing but post plagiarized quotes misrepresented as your own thoughts.

It is unsurprising that one of your character would find the expression of admiration ...more
By highhatsize (4187), East Quogue on Oct 13, 19 7:59 AM
This partisan-fueled impeachment inquiry is the biggest waste of all of our time ! Pelosi is scared to have a vote to open an official impeachment inquiry. There has been a lot of noise since Pelosi decided to call for impeachment before having the facts. Here are a few important questions,

Why do Democrats keep making up the rules as they go along, instead of following a fair process?

What work did the “whistle blower” do with a 2020 Democratic presidential candidate?

Why ...more
By Ditch Bum (901), Water Mill on Oct 13, 19 9:16 AM
Let me get this straight, we're going to impeach a president with an anonymous whistleblower through secret hearings where the GOP and the defendant are barred from presenting a defense. Got it.... Regardless of voting, their silence on the matter is proof enough of complicity. Now is the time to put each one on record of their support for impeachment. Failing to answer is is their position of support

Put the Democrats on record and then defeat as many as possible as we give President Trump ...more
By 27dan (2817), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 13, 19 9:22 AM
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In what world does an accused person get to participate in their own investigation?

The president will have plenty of time to cross-examine his accusers during the Senate trial.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 13, 19 9:27 AM
that is garbage fore 1, the left is making up there own rules as they go . this is just a big propaganda champaign designed to embarrass the president in hopes you will wear down the public.

well i'm here to tell you ......... NOT A CHANCE IN HELL !

I love my president more everyday !
By Erin 27 E (1263), hampton bays on Oct 13, 19 9:34 AM
And I think Republicans just want two bites at the apple by mounting a defense in the House AND the Senate.

If the president didn't want to be embarrassed, maybe he shouldn't have done embarrassing things like asking foreign leaders for help in an election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 13, 19 9:38 AM
An unjust impeachment of President Trump could in fact result with hundreds of leftist politicians decorating our remaining telephone poles.
By themarlinspike (521), Northern Hemisphere on Oct 13, 19 9:40 AM
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Vivid image, fish.
Promoting political
violence is not cool.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 13, 19 9:43 AM
That is not what Marlin was implying,

It is obvious he meant that your politician's who support this unfounded impeachment will get the boot ! furthermore one need not imagine political violence in the streets.... they only need to turn on the TV and watch the antics of the left in the streets after a peaceful Trump rally. The burning of flags and maga hats , throwing urine and rocks at police and there horses, setting fires, breaking windows, blocking and damaging cars.

Disgusting ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2042), southampton on Oct 13, 19 9:56 AM
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Lol, so you're saying "hundreds of leftist politicians decorating our remaining telephone poles" was a metaphor?

Who do you think you're fooling?

Marlin, was your comment literal or metaphorical? Take your time, I don't actually expect an answer.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8075), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 13, 19 10:07 AM